@simon33 said in L25 G40 OOB Simon33 (L+44) v BobbaRossa (X):
Oh I am wondering if I am doomed in this game already.
Certainly anything can happen with the dice, but the odds are looking a bit long.
L25 Playoff OOB GeneralDisarray (X) V ABH (A) Bid 50
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no scramble.
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Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Southern France 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern France 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 cruiser, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 cruiser, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 40 Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for French: 1 artillery Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from French with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Southern France Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Germans win, taking Southern France from French with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for French: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania Place Units - Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone 3 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 4 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Russians Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Amur 1 infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Amur 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur Combat - Russians Battle in Amur Russians attack with 1 artillery and 21 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 21 infantry in Amur, round 2 : 2/22 hits, 4.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Amur, round 2 : 5/16 hits, 5.33 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Amur 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Amur Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 16 infantry in Amur, round 3 : 2/17 hits, 3.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Amur, round 3 : 3/15 hits, 5.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Amur 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Amur Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 13 infantry in Amur, round 4 : 3/14 hits, 2.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Amur, round 4 : 10/13 hits, 4.33 expected hits 10 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Amur 3 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Amur 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians retreated to Sakha Japanese win with 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -31 Casualties for Russians: 18 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 6 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Yenisey 2 infantry moved from Olgiy to Yenisey 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Yunnan 1 armour moved from Rostov to Caucasus 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine 5 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk Place Units - Russians 3 artilleries placed in Ukraine 1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 3.33 Russians regular : -2.83 -
@abh said in L25 Playoff OOB GeneralDisarray (X) V ABH (A) Bid 50:
Japanese regular : 3.33
Russians regular : -2.83not my lucky game…
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Sakha 1 armour moved from Korea to Sakha 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Buyant-Uhaa Japanese take Buyant-Uhaa from Russians 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 4 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow Combat - Japanese Battle in Soviet Far East Battle in Kweichow Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kweichow, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Japanese win, taking Soviet Far East from Russians with 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Sakha Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Sakha, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Sakha, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sakha 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Sakha Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Sakha, round 3 : 0/9 hits, 2.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Sakha, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sakha Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Sakha, round 4 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Sakha, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Sakha 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Sakha Japanese win, taking Sakha from Russians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 6 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 5 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 aaGun moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Hunan 2 bombers moved from Kweichow to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to French Indo China 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Hunan 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : -2.00 Russians regular : 3.67 -
Got a little revenge there…
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@GeneralDisarray will do my turns tonight. Sorry for the delay
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico 1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone 2 carriers and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 bomber placed in Eastern United States 3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Southeast Mexico: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 4 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 11 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan Place Units - Chinese 4 artilleries placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 16 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Combat - British Battle in 93 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Italians defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone British win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan British attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia British take Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 3 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Burma 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes UK_Pacific take Celebes from Dutch 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa British undo move 1. 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3 British collect 28 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 28 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 7 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 7 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@GeneralDisarray yes
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris $ hits OOL?
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@GeneralDisarray max defense. Lose the ships.
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If you haven’t gone yet, tip the carrier and lose one fighter. Max D next turn if the fight goes on.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris What hits do you want to take specifically?
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tip carrier, lose destroyer and 2 cruisers.
Sorry, I saw the screen incorrectly.
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 armour moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Algeria 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Tanganyika Territory Italians take Tanganyika Territory from British 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland Combat - Italians British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Battle in 92 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 5 fighters Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British 2 fighters owned by the Italians retreated British win with 1 carrier and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -28 Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers Casualties for British: 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer Battle in Algeria Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry; French defend with 2 infantry Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 2 infantry Battle in Tunisia Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar 2 fighters owned by the British forced to land in Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France 1 bomber moved from Algeria to Southern Italy 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria Place Units - Italians 1 submarine placed in 95 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy Italians undo move 1. 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
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