@simon33 Quite the dastardly plan from zee Germans
L25 Playoff OOB GeneralDisarray (X) V ABH (A) Bid 50
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Well then reverse uno card: I resign in this match and take the L. GG General Disarray.
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A Arthur Bomber Harris referenced this topic
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Who was winning this game? LOL
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i was bored and casually browsing around and noticed this, then got sucked into catching up as it was an interesting moderation challenge.
i guess i do have an opinion but won’t share unless asked.
sorry this happened!
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This is not resolved yet.
Maybe we need a cooldown period. Or maybe we just need @GeneralDisarray to weigh in again.
I can wait.
I’m in a 20+ rounder myself right now, and for the past 7 rounds or so I think both me and @oysteilo would have been happy to just resign to the other because it’s been exhausting. So maybe there’s a little bit of that going on here.
I don’t know your personalities, unfortunately, so I just suggest you guys sleep on this some more. How many hours have been invested in the game? It’s understandable to just be tired and something like this just an opportunity to end it all, but just looking at map and TUV for a minute, seems you’ve got a real barn-burner going here and no A&A fan wants to watch it end on an OOL deal. -
agreed it should def not end that way, and i think gamer’s on point as far as resolution. i really think it can easily go back to that point in the battle where all the jap DDs were chosen as casualties, and simply insist on explicit casualty selection from there forward.
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It’s not uncommon. Two players matched up not by choice necessarily, maybe haven’t played before (just checked - according to league records they’ve never matched up) and have different ways of doing things and different expectations.
We’ll wait. It’s A&A.org league forum play and the playoffs are a big deal here.
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I believe it is resolved as ABH did official resign in the Results section.
Tough situation, but agree with what AD mentioned, that in this case explicit casualty selection is required. When it’s “obvious”, OOL like “max defense” make sense, but this was far from the case here.
Applaud both players in reacting in good sportsmanship in the aftermath.
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@Booper said in L25 Playoff OOB GeneralDisarray (X) V ABH (A) Bid 50:
I believe it is resolved as ABH did official resign in the Results section.
Tough situation, but agree with what AD mentioned, that in this case explicit casualty selection is required. When it’s “obvious”, OOL like “max defense” make sense, but this was far from the case here.
Applaud both players in reacting in good sportsmanship in the aftermath.
i think it’s a matter of interpretation of literal vs intent/spirit of the request… even “max defense” can backfire horribly if interpreted too literally (eg taking out the last dd instead of say a cruiser or fig when attacker has a lot of subs remaining, basically similar to what happened here), there is inherently an entrusting to the one running the battle that they will try their best to make the right interpretation, and usually we do it this way due to efficiency/expediency. however, given this is a playoff game, the correct approach would’ve been to insist on explicit casualty picks so as to eliminate the possibility of mis-interpretation.
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That’s kind of you ABH my faith is restored and appreciate the sportsmanship. I offered my resignation first but it not if you insist on this moving forward. Let me know if you want to progress I’ll offer the resignation in chat if so.
Appreciate the sportsmanship.
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I am not sure enough about how this ends up.
I will not record a result until I hear again from each of you whether you are resigning or accepting a resignation. Since you’ve had some days to maybe think about it, I wonder what the thoughts are now.
I’m not in a hurry to start the next game, I’m having trouble keeping up with the 3 I have, so take your time.
I think @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said he isn’t too interested in continuing in the playoff anyway, time constraints. That’s fine, and I can understand the resignation, but I don’t want to chalk up a loss to someone who technically won? the game.
I won’t go on and on, I’m an outsider to the game, but I want to float the idea of a “draw”, where @GeneralDisarray advances because ABH willingly forfeits the opportunity to advance in the playoffs, and maybe this game result isn’t recorded in the permanent standings.
Again, I just don’t like the idea of recording a win for General D and a loss for ABH unless for example you were both to say ABH was losing the game anyway.
It would be nice to have some kind of agreement. To me the dream scenario is you reset the battle to the point after ABH saves all subs, but the game is yours (plural)
In case it helps you understand where I’m coming from, I WOULD be happy to conclude this and record ABH loss and General D win, IF General D, um, accepts that