2025 Classic tournament round 1 Gamerman01 v VictoryFirst (Axis)

VictoryFirst

Max defense (so transport first)

gamerman01

Thank you,
I’m glad you’ve discovered the mid-game posting.

Now I wonder (because some very experienced and successful Triple A players are unaware) whether you know about the game notes feature in Triple A! I’ll explain a bit more after posting my turn.

And I feel bad, I am exploiting the very bad luck you had, but I’d better or you could make me pay, later. Classic is such a crazy shoot from the hip game compared to the later ones - a reminder that A&A should not be taken too seriously

gamerman01

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 factories and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Finland Norway
        1 armour moved from Persia to Sinkiang
              British take India from Japanese
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to French Indo China Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Sinkiang to French Indo China Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from Red Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in Finland Norway
            British attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Finland Norway
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
            British win, taking Finland Norway from Germans with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
        Battle in French Indo China Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 transport
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship and 2 transports
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 transport in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 transports in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the British lost in French Indo China Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in French Indo China Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 bomber in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the British lost in French Indo China Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is -19
            Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 transport
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from Kenya-Rhodesia to South Africa
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Syria Jordan
        1 fighter moved from Finland Norway to Russia

    Place Units - British
        1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
        1 factory placed in South Africa
        1 factory placed in Australia

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs
        COMMENT: Japan bought 1 IC and UK bought 2, so there is only 1 IC left
        COMMENT: There are 3 AA guns left for purchase

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.50
Germans regular : 0.33
British regular : -0.33

Savegame

gamerman01

The dice did deliver you a 33% result in the big air/fleet battle, so I won’t feel QUITE as bad, but the China J1 dice were just devastating.

So if you go to view -> show comment log, you will see that players can enter notes that are kept.
Since I learned last year in my re-entry to Classic about the whole limited units available thing.

The_Good_Captain tells me the goal is to implement a feature into TripleA that will track the remaining units (not an issue at all if you’re playing on a board with no missing pieces!) in a year.

Until then, I think game notes is definitely the way to go.
If you buy an AA or IC, enter a comment that updates the count.
This way we can also watch out for bombers and carriers, especially, as well.

Watch out, there’s only 1 IC left!

VictoryFirst

J2 OOL.tsvg

gamerman01

@gamerman01 said in 2025 Classic tournament round 1 Gamerman01 v VictoryFirst (Axis):

but the China J1 dice were just devastating.

I used to be indignant, years ago, when some would refer (online) to Axis and Allies as a “beer and pretzels game”. Well I don’t remember what version they were referring to, but I see they have a good point if it’s Classic.

It’s great, compared to the much more complicated versions, Classic kind of forces you to just have fun. @The_Good_Captain

gamerman01

All - in! Nice!!

Um, let’s see…

gamerman01

I dunno, lose the Russians and British infantry, thanks for asking

VictoryFirst

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 3 armour, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        3 fighters and 6 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang
        1 bomber moved from Japan to Sinkiang
        1 fighter moved from Japan Sea Zone to Sinkiang
        1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Okinawa Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to Okinawa Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Okinawa Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Manchuria
            Japanese attack with 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Manchuria
            Japanese win, taking Manchuria from Russians with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Sinkiang
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 6 infantry
            British defend with 1 armour and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 6 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 3,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sinkiang
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Sinkiang
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Sinkiang, round 3 : 3/7 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Sinkiang, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sinkiang
                2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Sinkiang
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 4 fighters in Sinkiang, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Sinkiang, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Sinkiang
            Japanese win with 1 bomber and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
            Casualties for Japanese: 6 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from Sinkiang to Japan Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Sinkiang to French Indo China

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 armour placed in French Indo China
        2 infantry placed in Japan
        1 transport placed in Japan Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 22 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,67
Japanese regular : 0,00
Russians regular : 0,67

Savegame

VictoryFirst

@gamerman01 Thanks! I didn’t know the piece limits for generic units apply to ALL powers (while in fact, it’s quite logical although didn’t think about it). This makes it quite interesting, you can buy ICs just to make sure your opponents can’t! 😂

gamerman01

@VictoryFirst said in 2025 Classic tournament round 1 Gamerman01 v VictoryFirst (Axis):

@gamerman01 Thanks! I didn’t know the piece limits for generic units apply to ALL powers (while in fact, it’s quite logical although didn’t think about it). This makes it quite interesting, you can buy ICs just to make sure your opponents can’t! 😂

I am glad you posted,

I really didn’t want to ambush you with this but I feel I already kind of have. Well, it’s double elimination…

I am REALLY enjoying this game, I’m so glad the guys got me to play 2 Classic games a year ago. I’m curious what your A&A background is. You definitely have skills and experience.

gamerman01

Furthermore, since we are not sitting together playing with physical pieces (unfortunately), I need to use the comment log to specify what fighters are on what carriers when allied carriers share a zone, which I will do with this US turn…

gamerman01

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 aaGun moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
        1 fighter moved from North Sea Zone to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
        2 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia

    Place Units - Russians
        1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
        1 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

The_Good_Captain

@VictoryFirst @gamerman01 outside of AA guns and industrial complexes, you can have an infinities amount of any unit type - you just can’t break them into more groups than there are pieces. For example: there are only three bombers available for each power. The USA can have 8 bombers on the board - they just can’t be in more than three groups at any given time. They cannot break into more than three groups to make attacks, etc.

Hopefully that makes sense.

VictoryFirst

@gamerman01 said in 2025 Classic tournament round 1 Gamerman01 v VictoryFirst (Axis):

I am REALLY enjoying this game, I’m so glad the guys got me to play 2 Classic games a year ago. I’m curious what your A&A background is.

Thank you, I enjoy this game too.

I’ve started playing A&A when I was 12 years old. My mother wanted to buy something from an online shop but the final price was just under the free shipping limit. So she offered me to buy something from that site so that there would be free shipping. I was fond of board games and I also had a growing interest in WW2 so a WW2 board game appealed me. After some searching I found this game called Axis and Allies 1941. Very cheap and it looked cool, so I put it in the shopping cart. After that, I came into contact with the game for the first time and immediately fell love.

At some point I bought Europe and Pacific 1940. I’ve played over a 100 solo games of Global. It was funny as I thought I had an unbeatable Allied strategy. Later I found out the Axis are considered to have a large advantage. I’ve never really played G40 on the forums so I have never figured out if my Allied strategy was actually unbeatable or just my Axis play being flawed (I think the latter one). It has been too long ago so now I don’t know anymore the exact details of the strategy, so I guess we’ll never know.

Joined this site in 2021 but have not played actively until this year. Finished high school last year and am currently taking a gap year so now I’ve lots of time to play.

You definitely have skills and experience.

Ha, I take that as a compliment from someone who is in the top of the G40 League standings! Although I don’t think I have that much experience compared to most people playing here. With the exception of Original Europe (and G40 but that was too long ago), I have never really stacked many games of any version. The_Good_Captain for example has played 50+ games of Anniversary 1941, 100+ games of Classic, 40+ games of 1914, compared to 5, 1 and 8 games for me respectively 😂

VictoryFirst

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 7 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 bomber moved from West Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
        4 fighters moved from West Europe to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Congo to Kenya-Rhodesia
              Germans take Kenya-Rhodesia from British
        1 armour moved from Kenya-Rhodesia to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        2 infantry moved from Congo to Anglo Sudan Egypt

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in West Africa Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 4 fighters
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 4 fighters in West Africa Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 transport in West Africa Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in West Africa Sea Zone
            Germans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        4 fighters moved from West Africa Sea Zone to West Europe
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
        10 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe
        1 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe
        2 armour moved from East Europe to Germany
        1 fighter moved from East Europe to Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        7 armour placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,17
Russians regular : 0,67
Germans regular : 1,50

Savegame

gamerman01

@The_Good_Captain said in 2025 Classic tournament round 1 Gamerman01 v VictoryFirst (Axis):

@VictoryFirst @gamerman01 outside of AA guns and industrial complexes, you can have an infinities amount of any unit type - you just can’t break them into more groups than there are pieces. For example: there are only three bombers available for each power. The USA can have 8 bombers on the board - they just can’t be in more than three groups at any given time. They cannot break into more than three groups to make attacks, etc.

Hopefully that makes sense.

OK, so if you were playing with the board game this wouldn’t be an issue, because you take the units you’re buying and put them to the side.

So online if you accidentally have all 3 bomber groups away from the IC’s and it is impossible for you to place the bomber you purchased, I would think that bomber would just be lost, consistent with similar rules.

But since we’re online and we’re all sportsmanlike, I suppose we would simply allow an adjustment of noncombat. And if it still isn’t possible to remedy the situation (an illegal 4th bomber would need to be placed), players would just work it out (allow refund or change of purchase)?

Or how do we want to proactively deal with this potential problem?

The_Good_Captain

@gamerman01 if its me - I would just let them make a reasonable repurchase. but thats me - I dont like to spank anyone with “gotchas”. If mandatory NCM moves cannot resolve the situation (eg a bomber flying back to an industrial center or a carrier floating back to the west coast) I would lean towards the money being reverted to their bank and be available to be spent next turn. Punishment enough imo. But not a hill I will die on. Am totally willing to take it on a case by case basis content in its rarity.

gamerman01

@The_Good_Captain Excellent! And we are on the same wavelength, nice.
I was thinking about the draconian rule that you lose all the ships you purchased if an enemy sub withdrew into your zone. So it’s good that we’re not being as strict as possible

The_Good_Captain

@gamerman01 said in 2025 Classic tournament round 1 Gamerman01 v VictoryFirst (Axis):

@The_Good_Captain Excellent! And we are on the same wavelength, nice.
I was thinking about the draconian rule that you lose all the ships you purchased if an enemy sub withdrew into your zone. So it’s good that we’re not being as strict as possible

Even if this example occurred, it would not prevent the placement of said naval units as we are using this optional rule from page 31:

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