Factory Upgrade Question

The Germans have no destroyer present, therefore the defending air units can not hit the sub, and of course the sub can never hit planes. Think of it in terms of the combined arms rule, air units can only hit subs if they are combined with at least 1 participating destroyer, the difference with this particular combined arms is that it works while attacking and defending. In the scenario that you described, the sub would destroy the remaining transport without rolling and the defending fighters can do nothing.

thx

Sending a strategic bomber and/or a tac bomber to bomb airfields to prevent a scramble that may or maynot happen, really spreads the Luftwaffe thin in a turn where there are a lot of must have battles going on for Germany. I recently accomplished sea lion without attacking sea zone 110 in G1 and it gave me good odds everywhere that mattered without risking a single aircraft (much needed when the troops land in London).

Thanks again for the inputs. :-)

So, to sum up the issue. US IC upgrade cases are listed below.

1.) US buy the upgrade with money before (or even after) being at war
–> the upgrade is done during the mobilize new units phase of this turn, therefore, the 10 production capacity is available only in the next turn.
2.) not one attack or provoke US up to turn 3.
–> During the US3 collect income phase, US goes into war anyway. turn 3 mobilize phase gone already. wait for next turn please.
3.) US is being declared war on by an Axis.
–> US become at war immediately and IC upgrade immediately. On the start of next US turn, US has the major IC already, everything proceed as usual.
4.) US is not being declared war on, but was given the pretext to go to war. possible cases: Japan makes unprovoked war declaration on UK/ANZAC, Axis capture of London or any territory in North America.
–> it’s a little subtle here, but in short, US will be able to buy in large order. US is still having the 3 minor IC only at the start of the turn. she can make a over production purchase order (20 inf or something), go on to declare war at the beginning of Combat Phase. IC gets upgraded immediately. When US reaches the mobilize phase in the same turn, the now-Major IC are ready to produce the once-over-large order.

ok. one less reason for Japan to make a “UK+ANZAC” war declaration than to make a “all Allies” war declaration.  :wink:

@Adamml321:

@Cow:

Well either way. uk can only make 9-10 inf r1.  germany round 2 buys more transports and dumps what he has on to a spot near uk. G3 is boom boom if you got the forces or wait a round just shuffle a bunch of guys over and G4 it is done.

There is nothing uk can do. period.

What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with this topic

I think he posted his quote on the wrong thread.  It looks like his quote is supposed to be on some thread about Sealion.  Maybe he was thinking of making his post, saw this topic and decided to check it out, then said “Oh, I’ve got to leave my post” but forgot to go back to the original Sealion thread and left it here instead.  Probably a blonde moment, ha ha ha.

thanks krieg. my head was starting to hurt

Ozteas 1941 is well reviewed. If you’re comfortable with some players being at peace at the start, that is also worth a look. Starts like round 3 of 1940.

Although if you prefer the simplicity of everyone fighting right away, go to g42!

Congo by that time had been, actually, a Belgian colony. And sake of the German made their attack on France through Belgium, the Germans conquered it. The Belgian government went to exile, just guess where to? Righty O! London! As the Netherlands, as France, as etc. pepe. That´s it I guess.

better now? ;)