@surfer said in L25 Avner (L+9) vs Surfer (X) BM4:
@Avner Boo. I can’t access the dice server! Stucifer posted earlier that this was a problem. I guess we’ll have to delay.
now it’s ok… it seems
L24 OOB surfer (X) vs AndrewAAGamer (L+60) #1
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@surfer said in L24 OOB surfer (X) vs AndrewAAGamer (L+60) #1:
@AndrewAAGamer I forgot to attack the sub in Celebes. Assuming you’ll allow the rolls…
1 DD + 4 ftr + 2 tac vs 1 sub
2 tacs first
[dice 1d6<=4]Yep, no worries. We are just playing a friendly game.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 14 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi Japanese take Shensi from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Sumatra Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Sumatra, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Sumatra Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Americans with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 carrier moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 41 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 7 artilleries, 13 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 17 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Hopei to Shensi 1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Hopei 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 8 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 2 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 11 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 16 fighters and 16 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan 2 aaGuns, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Shan State 2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Yunnan Place Units - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 44 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 carriers placed in 39 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Japan 3 infantry placed in French Indo China 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Shantung 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : 0.83 -
TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 14 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 7 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 armour and 5 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 1 armour and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 27 fighters, 2 infantry, 5 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 6 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Norway Battle in Korea Non Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 16 carriers, 3 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 1 infantry, 12 submarines and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Midway 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Midway 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 9 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 destroyers, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 7 fighters placed in Eastern United States 3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 68 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi 9 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi Combat - Chinese Battle in Shensi Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 37 infantry Japanese defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 19 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 37 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 5/39 hits, 7.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 19 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys in Shensi, round 2 : 12/26 hits, 8.83 expected hits 12 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi 3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 aaGuns owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi 25 infantry owned by the Chinese and 2 artilleries owned by the Chinese retreated to Kansu Japanese win with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 16 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17 Casualties for Chinese: 12 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 aaGuns and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British Non Combat Move - British 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 27 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Syria 2 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from Russia to Norway 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Norway 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 3 aaGuns, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 aaGun, 7 artilleries and 51 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in Iraq 3 infantry placed in Egypt 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs Turn Complete - UK_PacificCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -2.17 Japanese regular : 3.17 -
I didn’t scramble in either spot as the odds were overwhelming. Let me know if you want to scramble anywhere and I can redo the US Turn.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 14 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium Germans take Holland Belgium from British Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania Place Units - Italians 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6,1,1,1,2,6,2 Italians collect 11 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 11 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 14 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 3 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Russia 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia Place Units - ANZAC 1 fighter placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 4 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Norway Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 15
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 15 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from Volgograd to Samara Germans take Samara from Russians 1 armour moved from Samara to Novosibirsk Germans take Novosibirsk from Russians 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Nenetsia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Nenetsia 3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 armour moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Norway 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to Norway 2 bombers moved from Bryansk to Norway Combat - Germans Battle in Norway Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 8 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 3 aaGuns, 6 fighters and 5 infantry; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 armour and 5 infantry British roll AA dice in Norway : 1/9 hits, 1.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Norway Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Norway, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 8 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Norway, round 2 : 8/20 hits, 8.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 7 fighters and 10 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 3/18 hits, 8.50 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway 3 aaGuns owned by the British and 5 infantry owned by the British lost in Norway Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Norway, round 3 : 8/17 hits, 7.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 7 fighters and 5 infantry in Norway, round 3 : 5/13 hits, 6.83 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway 1 armour owned by the Americans, 5 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in Norway Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in Norway, round 4 : 3/12 hits, 6.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 5 fighters in Norway, round 4 : 4/5 hits, 3.33 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Norway 3 fighters owned by the British lost in Norway Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Norway, round 5 : 5/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 fighters in Norway, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Norway Germans win, taking Norway from Americans with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 58 Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 3 aaGuns, 6 fighters and 5 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 5 infantry Casualties for French: 1 fighter Battle in Nenetsia Germans attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Nenetsia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Nenetsia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Nenetsia 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Nenetsia Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Novosibirsk 2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Bryansk 3 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Nenetsia to Archangel 4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 2 bombers moved from Norway to Finland 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany 7 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Poland 3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 25 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Anhwe Place Units - Germans 1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Volgograd 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -8.00 British AA : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.33 Germans regular : -2.00 -
@AndrewAAGamer They say it’s better to be lucky than good…in a game like this, I would agree.
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Yeah, not quite the result I was expecting, but oh well.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 15
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 15 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara Russians take Samara from Germans 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Vologda Combat - Russians Battle in Vologda Russians attack with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 4 fighters moved from Vologda to Timguska 1 aaGun and 7 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Russia 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 19 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 0.17 -
@AndrewAAGamer I’ll concede…not that I have much choice. The home island will be invaded and the Germans are completely contained. GG
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Thank you for the game! I thought you played very well. As usual, you were a tough opponent. If it hadn’t been for that disastrous battle in Greece early on, I think you would’ve had a really good chance of knocking out Moscow before I could gain the overall advantage.
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So, I always offer best two out of three, would you like to go again?
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So, I always offer best two out of three. Would you like to play again?
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@AndrewAAGamer It was a good game. I was interested to see how the Russian /Chinese defense played out. I was able to force the Russian and Chinese back, but I never got any traction in Moscow.
Greece was a problem, and perhaps, I should have just ignored it until I built more ground forces in the area. However, the bid for Russia supplemented them with enough units that I never had an advantage there regardless of the Greece fiasco. In fact, I felt you had pulled back too quickly and let the Germans gain some territory that could have been more dearly fought over, which counteracted the early loss of material in Greece.
But that leads to my main “learning point” of this game, a winning strategy for the Allies is just to build up and defend. You never really fought for anything in the Europe side, just built up forces in Normandy and eventually spilled over to Holland. More dramatically, this was followed in the Pacific side, you never even threatened for the DEI or even took back Aleutians until I went for India on T9. Just build carriers and fighters and some transports that just stayed as a single force.
Normally, I would have thought that was a losing strat against Japan, but because China was so strong, I never established my hegemony over Asia. Sure, at the end, Japan was a land force, but it didn’t matter because the IJN was unable to defend against the US fleet. From T6-T14, the Japanese never spent less than 19 IPCs on land forces except 2 turns, and spent more than 1/3 of the iPCs on land forces + transports on over half the turns. Yet, did not remove the Chinese from the map.
Equally surprising strat was to ignore Europe with the US for so long. Just buying a small fleet to hold Normandy and 3 inf each turn. I would have thought the Germans would have made more progress since they had a small West force to counter with. But Russia wasn’t falling so nope.
The bottomline is I don’t see how to defeat this strategy with this bid. There was nowhere to attack at advantage. The NO for Russia does not seem to be stoppable. I tried a couple of times to get the Japanese over but without severely dispersing my forces, that was not going to happen. So Russia will hold, and then it’s just build and wait for the remaining forces.
Kinda demoralized right now, so I’ll go beat up on some other competition and maybe try again after the scars have healed.
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