Scramble in Philippines?
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L24 PTV Max334 (Axis +12) vs Nikola
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much obliged. I have not gotten an answer, but yes the planes on the carriers would have also been lost, but my question is can I scramble to the sz with the cruiser even though, as you said ftrs cant hit subs without a dd. See that would have allowed them to land on Wake Island
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I also need to reduce Japans PU’s by 5 as I didnt get that IO without Midway
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 16
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 16 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 53 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 2 submarines placed in 64 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Combat Move - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 17
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 17 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Finland 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 3 armour moved from Poland to Leningrad 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Leningrad 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium Germans take Holland Belgium from Americans Combat - Germans Battle in Finland Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Russians defend with 2 armour Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour in Finland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Finland, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland Germans win, taking Finland from Russians with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 armour Battle in Leningrad Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Leningrad, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 transport moved from 124 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Austria 1 infantry moved from Austria to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Austria to Northern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Austria 1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Western Germany 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland Place Units - Germans 1 submarine placed in 116 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in France 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5,6,3,1,5 Germans collect 38 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 38 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for Japanese from 91 to 86 EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.17 Germans regular : -1.83 -
That is a PtV question and you should make sure with the designers of PtV, But the PtV rules follow the regular rules except as specified.
I think the answer is yes, because there is no requirement that the fighters can make any difference in the battle they scramble to (page 16, Europe manual). If those carriers are sunk, the fighters have a chance to move 1 space to friendly land or an undamaged allied carrier. (page 16)
However, even though the rules have no stated requirement that the fighters have to make a difference (that is, can’t be scrambled against sub only when you have no destroyer), Krieghund sometimes surprises me on questions like this. I think I’m a 90%+ accurate answer but if you want 100% you have to go to the Q&A thread. Even though the regular rules don’t provide for carrier scrambles, the same question applies. I think the heart of your question is whether planes can scramble to defendagainst subs where the planes will make no difference, and that question is relevant to the regular game as well.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/18412/global-2nd-edition-q-a-aag40-2
So you won’t need PtV guys I don’t think. If you don’t want my “quite sure” answer, go here and ask Krieghund if you can scramble to an attack by subs only where you have no defending destroyers. -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 17
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 17 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 6 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 1 fighter moved from Siberia to Korea 1 armour moved from Amur to Northern Manchuria Chinese take Northern Manchuria from Japanese 1 armour moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Albania 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 armour moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland 3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 2 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Slovakia Hungary 3 fighters moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 3 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus 1 armour moved from Russia to Northern Belarus 3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 tactical_bombers moved from Vologda to Northern Belarus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Southern Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Karelia to 118 Sea Zone Combat - Russians Battle in 118 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 fighter Germans defend with 2 transports 2 transports owned by the Germans lost in 118 Sea Zone Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 2 transports Battle in Albania Russians attack with 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 aaGun 1 aaGun owned by the Italians lost in Albania Russians win, taking Albania from Italians with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Italians: 1 aaGun Battle in Greece Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Greece, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Greece 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Greece Russians win, taking Greece from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery Battle in Yugoslavia Russians attack with 3 fighters and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yugoslavia 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yugoslavia 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia Russians win, taking Yugoslavia from Italians with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in Buryatia Russians attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Buryatia, round 2 : 5/20 hits, 4.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Buryatia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Buryatia Russians win, taking Buryatia from Japanese with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Southern Caucasus Russians attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Caucasus Russians win, taking Southern Caucasus from Japanese with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Slovakia Hungary Russians attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Slovakia Hungary 3 fighters owned by the Russians retreated Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Korea Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Korea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Korea, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Korea, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Korea, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Korea, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Korea Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Battle in Eastern Poland Russians attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 3.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 3 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 3 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 2 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 2 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 3 artilleries moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bulgaria to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus 1 fighter moved from 118 Sea Zone to Northern Belarus 4 artilleries moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 8 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 4 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 artillery moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 fighter moved from Korea to Siberia 2 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur 1 artillery moved from Siberia to Amur 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus Place Units - Russians 1 armour placed in Stalingrad 2 armour placed in Ukraine 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Stalingrad 1 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Siberia 2 armour and 2 infantry placed in Russia 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4 Russians collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 64 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0.33 Italians regular : 0.00 Germans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : 0.33
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