L24 OOB Stucifer (X) v Booper (L+48)

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bessarabia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Bessarabia
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        3 armour moved from Holland Belgium to France
        2 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bessarabia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Bessarabia
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        3 armour moved from Holland Belgium to France
        2 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        British scrambles 2 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser owned by the French, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
                3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
            2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Romania
            Neutral_Allies win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 3 infantry
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
            Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in Eastern Poland
            Germans attack with 2 armour and 5 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 5 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 4 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
            Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 2 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in France
            Germans attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 7/19 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                1 aaGun owned by the French and 6 infantry owned by the French lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 3/15 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                1 artillery owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 4 : 5/14 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in France, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the French lost in France
            Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
        Battle in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 battleship owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 battleship and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -29
            Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for British: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
        Moving scrambled unit from 111 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Scotland
        Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
              Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        3 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 aaGun moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
        2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -2.83
Neutral_Allies regular : 0.33
Russians regular : 1.33
Germans regular : 1.00
British regular : 3.00

Savegame

With the breaking up of all the different unit types I lost track of where the battle was at and what still needed to fire. thought I was going to casualty selection when I confirmed attacking again round 2. It’s a big edit so fair if you don’t want to allow it, let me know.

@Booper yeah. perhaps it would be best to reroll all the battles since I got good dice in a all of them, if you don’t want to just edit out round 2, I would fee that is fair too, since it was my mistake I also accept it as it lies if that is your preference. 🤓

@Booper said in L24 OOB Stucifer (X) v Booper (L+48):

@Stucifer

Letting it lie would be great for me, but I’d feel bad if that was not your intent.

You did have pretty good dice, but sz110 you had severe overkill, and I got 3 hits back, which is about as well as could be expected.

111 is a tricky one, as what if I had whiffed completely, then maybe the battle continues despite the mis-click. Ideally what would happen, is you shoot me a msg saying you accidentally mis-clicked and the 1st half of the 2nd round accidentally started, but you are going to void that entire round, before seeing the defense rolls.

Yeah this is a concern for me. I I see it muddied and feels too much like being upset I lost everything on the attack.

How about if you take a 2 hit penalty - like if I had gotten that 2nd round roll in the 1st round, and hit 4/5 after my sub hit, in the first round of combat, instead of 2/5? So the edit would be I get 2 units back (btw, I’d keep the cruiser instead of the DD), and u could get 2 units back. Does it seem reasonable and fair?

That seems like a very reasonable suggestion, I would graciously accept this edit. I will repost it soon.

Edited file-

triplea_41270_1ger_edited.tsvg

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 3 transports; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
              Japanese take French Indo China from French
        2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
              Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
              Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
        2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 5 infantry; Russians defend with 3 fighters
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 fighters and 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 7/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            1 bomber owned by the Japanese retreated
            Chinese win with 3 fighters and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -46
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 aaGun, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Korea to 36 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Okinawa to 36 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangsi
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 31 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 2.67
Japanese regular : -2.67

Savegame

that was an outcome

Gonna nerd out because I’m curious.
Chance to get 4 hits on 5 infantry = 4.11%
Chance to get 3 of 3 on the fighters = 29.63%
1.22%

-and-
Chance to get 5 hits on 5 infantry = 0.411%
Chance to get 2 of 3 on the fighters = 44.44%
0.18%

So like a 1.4% chance to get 7 hits, which is actually higher than I expected

Chance to whiff completely with my units:
2 Infantry @1: 69.44%
Inf + Art @2: 44.44%
Fighter @3: 50%
Tac + 2 Bombers @4: 3.7%
0.57%

total chance for this outcome: 0.008%

@Booper Full scramble please, normal OOL