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Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
Non Combat Move - Americans
2 fighters moved from 102 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 3 submarines and 5 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 carrier moved from 102 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
Place Units - Americans
2 fighters and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 20 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 factory_minor and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - British
2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Syria
3 fighters moved from Egypt to Syria
1 bomber moved from Egypt to Northern Italy
1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy
Combat - British
Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 bomber owned by the British killed by AA in Northern Italy
Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 5 damage total.
Battle in Syria
British attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Italians defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry
British roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Syria, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Syria
British win, taking Syria from Italians with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - British
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Syria to Egypt
1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Tunisia
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
1 armour and 3 infantry moved from French West Africa to 87 Sea Zone
1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 87 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
Place Units - British
2 fighters placed in 106 Sea Zone
1 factory_minor placed in Persia
Turn Complete - British
British collect 34 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33
British regular : 1.00
Italians AA : 0.67
UK Turn 4 Complete Global 1940 Game 20.tsvg
Do answer my question:
Which is better in your opinion? G2 or G3?
@SuperbattleshipYamato said in SbY (Al) vs CdS (Ax) Europe 1940 2nd:
UK Turn 4 Complete Global 1940 Game 20.tsvg
Do answer my question:
Which is better in your opinion? G2 or G3?
Are you talking about a G2 or G3 attack on Russia?
It all depends on how the situation is on the rest of the map. If the Russians are gathering at the border, then you might consider a G2. But if UK is heavily into fleet, close to Western Europe, you might consider to focus on that in G2. I prefer a G3, because I need to prepare for it, with air and other units (from Paris) and purchase. Plus I also need the help from Italy and make sure I have them to clear the way on Russian soil.
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
1 armour moved from Ukraine to Rostov
Italians take Rostov from Russians
1 armour moved from Rostov to Bryansk
1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
1 armour moved from Belarus to Smolensk
Italians take Smolensk from Russians
1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
Combat - Italians
Non Combat Move - Italians
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
Place Units - Italians
2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
4 infantry placed in Northern Italy
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Greece: 1 bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Southern Italy: 1 bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
I also believe that a G3 is better, because it doesn give Russia much time to get Iraq and other territory’s that are pro Axis. The Russians shouldnt have lots of PU, if you go to soon, you might not be able to counter their NO’s (for example: sub in sz125)
Yeah. Odd then that my G3 was “too slow”. I see your purchases were quite different from mine? Is that the key?
Game History
Round: 4
Combat Move - French
1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
Non Combat Move - French
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Yes, its not so much which turn you attack (altough, like I explained, all conditions most be perfect, when you attack), but the way with which you attack. I believe that you need units that are mechanized and supported by air too quickly push into Russia. If Russia has the chance to stop you at Bryansk, your attack (taking MOS) is most likely doomed to fail. Because at that time you are getting two fronts (perhaps even three) East and West. My goal is to get MOS in R6, R5 is even better! I still believe that if both sides (players) are equal to each other, or the one playing Allies is a little bit better, the game can continue after the fall of MOS.
You may have noticed that you got a sbr run in MOS, normally MOS is out of reach from the bombers, but with the help of Italy its possible to reach it and devastate Russian factory to the point that you cant produce a lot of units anymore. So its necessary for each side (Axis or Allies) to help their partners achieve goals in defense or attack. Its like chess, each move (in each turn) prepares for the next and the next etc.
Game History
Round: 5
Politics - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov
Germans take Tambov from Russians
1 armour moved from Tambov to Russia
7 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia
7 bombers moved from Belarus to Russia
3 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia
1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Greece to Russia
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
Germans take Archangel from Russians
Combat - Germans
Battle in Russia
Germans attack with 8 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers
Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 12/21 hits, 12.50 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 5/17 hits, 6.50 expected hits
5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia
12 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia
Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 : 11/16 hits, 10.00 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia
1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 fighters owned by the Russians lost in Russia
Germans captures 36PUs while taking Russians capital
Germans converts factory_major into different units
Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 1 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31
Casualties for Germans: 7 armour
Casualties for Russians: 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk
3 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 26 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
7 bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod
3 bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk
1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece
2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
2 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy
1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
Place Units - Germans
3 infantry placed in France
3 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 85 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 100 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -2.00
Germans regular : 0.50
Game History
Round: 5
Combat Move - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 22 infantry moved from Vologda to Samara
2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Caucasus
Turn Complete - Russians
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 5 bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 104 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 104 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
Combat - Americans
Battle in 104 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 submarine
Germans defend with 1 destroyer
Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
Americans win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
Non Combat Move - Americans
1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 2 submarines and 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to Algeria
1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
2 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 aaGun moved from Quebec to Eastern United States
Place Units - Americans
5 bombers placed in Eastern United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 20 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67
Germans regular : -0.33
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 bomber moved from Tunisia to Northern Italy
1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
British take Libya from Italians
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
British take Ethiopia from Italians
Combat - British
Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 6 damage total.
Non Combat Move - British
1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Algeria
1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Ethiopia
2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
2 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
2 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
Place Units - British
3 infantry placed in Persia
3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
Turn Complete - British
British collect 36 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians AA : -0.17
Thank you for all the advice!
