Can a damaged carrier keep attacking in round 2 of the sea battle in an amphibious assault?

@AndrewAAGamer said in Global 1940 Rule Question re: scrambling and amphibious assaults:

@Panther said in Global 1940 Rule Question re: scrambling and amphibious assaults:

#3.
The American units only watch the scenery, as friendly powers never attack together. As Britain in your scenario is the attacker, the British transports may retreat, if possible.

In this scenario the transports were already in the SZ so they would not be allowed a retreat. However, if they left the SZ and came back in then they could retreat.

Right, that is the way that makes a retreat “possible”.

That’s what I thought

Too bad, we’ll just have to make do.

But thanks for the quick replies!

@Makoshark13:

Or, you can do what my opponent did in my last game and buy 5 Battleships for Germany. Needless to say, Russia rolled right over him.

A battleship for the Caspian sea has always been a huge game changer for Russia.

The only scenario where I would consider attacking neutrals is if I had a big army (either Axis or Allies) that needs to go through Turkey and isn’t mobile enough to go around Turkey.  I’ve never actually seen that scenario though.

In general the downside to attacking neutrals is way more significant than any perceived upside.  It’s hard to justify a move that is going to gift 15+ infantry to your opponent.

Thanks for the post, Frank.  Yep, you pretty much summed up a few of the many reasons why OOB is fatally flawed, and you have the 30-35 games to back it up.

I get the feeling from my few games of Alpha2 so far (not going too crazy playing it - just a couple games at a time because it will probably be changed anyway) that the Allies still have a significant advantage in Alpha2.  But I have to admit none of the games have lasted even more than a few rounds (with the Axis getting obliterated each time) so maybe those oil field NO’s could really come into play sometimes I suppose.

To me, Russia and USA have suffocating power (Russia is very deep, and as Larry himself acknowledged - he wondered if it was 1 territory too deep), and the UK can be very powerful as well.

Ok, my bad, Germany and UK Europe are ok because thay start at war…

@calvinhobbesliker:

@Rorschach:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@knp7765:

If two US carriers were attacked by a Japanese submarine, and there were no US destroyers present, the fighters on the carrier that got damaged would not be lost in the air.  They would be stuck on the deck of the carrier until the carrier could get to a friendly naval base for repairs. 
Since planes can not hit submarines without a friendly destroyer present, if a submarine attacks a carrier there is no reason for the planes to take off from the carrier.  They would simply have to withstand the attack aboard the carrier like cargo on transports in hopes that the carrier’s own anti-sub defenses can get the sub or the sub breaks off the attack.
Therefore, you would not lose your planes if the carrier only took one hit. 
However, say your carrier is next to a friendly island or coast and gets attacked by a pack of subs that gets two hits on that carrier.  Then you would lose your planes even though they are just 1 space away because they never took off from the carrier because planes can’t hit submarines.  That part sucks.

All of that is wrong. The planes are always in the air and thus if the CV is damaged, they have to land within 1 space or die.

Calvin is correct.  The only times planes are considered in Cargo on a CV is when they are your allies planes, at which point they are not in the air until that players turn.

To clarify that, allied planes are only cargo if the carrier is attacking. If the carrier is defending, allied planes can still try to land within one space.

My mistake guys.  I just went back and reread the rules regarding carriers and defending aircraft and see now that ANY attack on the carrier has the planes defending in the air, even if the attack is by subs.  I guess I missed that part before.  Thanks for the correction.