If it were just one topic, you would be correct Mech.
But it is EVERY topic.
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If it were just one topic, you would be correct Mech.
But it is EVERY topic.
Sometimes you just got to let it go, and let the person that you beleive is wrong, to continue being wrong and just hope he/she realizes that they are. :wink:
@ncscswitch:
If it were just one topic, you would be correct Mech.
But it is EVERY topic.
Sometimes you just got to let it go, and let the person that you beleive is wrong, to continue being wrong and just hope he/she realizes that they are. :wink:
The joke will be on us when she reveals herself as a troll. That one would get me good.
She’s probably married to shrek;)
@ncscswitch:
If it were just one topic, you would be correct Mech.
But it is EVERY topic.
Sometimes you just got to let it go, and let the person that you beleive is wrong, to continue being wrong and just hope he/she realizes that they are. :wink:
But for some people (i’m one of them ans switch surely is too), seeing lies and half truths getting spread all around is really annoying. In fact, i don’t care if Jen doesn’t change it’s mind (and principallu her way to “debate” and to bring “proofs”), I just find it SAD to see taht much bullshit beeing spread. Worst thing is too many people (thoses who aren’t well informed and those who absolutely need something to beleive in) are buying bullshit.
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And exactly HOW do you plan to compress THAT much gas without using energy (causing heat) to do the compression? AND, how do you offset the thermodynamic law that compression of a gas heats the gas (independent of the energy needed to compress it)?
You can;t use HALF of the laws of thermodynamics to support your hypothesis and not the other half relating to compression heating.
As for a space reflector… We can’t keep bolts from floating away while attaching a small solar panel on the space station, and you want to place a reflective mesh tens of thousands of square miles in size in orbit?
Not to deflate your hopes, but we could fill cannisters in space and bring them down. The added gravity would put them under more pressure and we could release the gas. Woolah! No heat absorbed! No added expense, we just fill em as part of our currently scheduled misions and let the gravity of the world pressurize them for free upon reentry.
Gee, why am I the only person on the planet that seems to figure this out? Oh wait, I’m not, just that when people come up with rational ways to “effect” the planet’s atmosphere you say it’s unfeasible because it wont do enough or try to pick holes in the logic.
Come up with a better plan that doesn’t involve punishing only US Citizens like Kyoto.
Gas has weight, so you need to haul it into orbit to compress it. Unless you want to build a ram scoop in orbit large enough to collect the gas in space. Of course right now under current technology, it would be easier to just build a big exhaust pipe up out of the atmosphere and discharge the extra CO2 into space through a 200 mile high tailpipe.
A couple of O2 bottles that can fit on the Shuttle are not going to cut it either, you are talking scores of cubic miles of atmoshpere to be cooled…
And you have done nothing to address teh cause of the warming.
The Kyoto Protocol is a fine thing to have. However, I don’t know what you mean by “punishing” US citizens. We have the highest emissions of any country, hands down, and our emissions per person is nearly at the top as well. The countries that would have to do the most work obviously don’t want to do that. Pretty selfish.
Not to deflate your hopes, but we could fill cannisters in space and bring them down. The added gravity would put them under more pressure and we could release the gas. Woolah! No heat absorbed! No added expense, we just fill em as part of our currently scheduled misions and let the gravity of the world pressurize them for free upon reentry.
Gee, why am I the only person on the planet that seems to figure this out? Oh wait, I’m not, just that when people come up with rational ways to “effect” the planet’s atmosphere you say it’s unfeasible because it wont do enough or try to pick holes in the logic.
Come up with a better plan that doesn’t involve punishing only US Citizens like Kyoto.
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I hope you are not talking seriously…
If yes, it’s a pity.
the earth will adapt. With or without our current co2 emmissions. we just may have way more thunderstorms to help out.
Yes, the Earth will be fine. The Earth’s inhabitants on the other hand will likely have a tougher time of it. @OLver:
Not to deflate your hopes, but we could fill cannisters in space and bring them down. The added gravity would put them under more pressure and we could release the gas. Woolah! No heat absorbed! No added expense, we just fill em as part of our currently scheduled misions and let the gravity of the world pressurize them for free upon reentry.
Gee, why am I the only person on the planet that seems to figure this out? Oh wait, I’m not, just that when people come up with rational ways to “effect” the planet’s atmosphere you say it’s unfeasible because it wont do enough or try to pick holes in the logic.
Come up with a better plan that doesn’t involve punishing only US Citizens like Kyoto.
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I hope you are not talking seriously…
If yes, it’s a pity.
I add my own hopes here as well.
How is that utterly feasable? I assume you don’t want to increase funding to NASA so the extremely limited space on the shuttle will be taken up with canisters. How effective do you think a single shuttle will be when it comes to cooling A PLANET anyway??? Sorry to poke holes in your logic but perhaps a plan without GAPING holes will have more support.
How is that utterly feasable? I assume you don’t want to increase funding to NASA so the extremely limited space on the shuttle will be taken up with canisters. How effective do you think a single shuttle will be when it comes to cooling A PLANET anyway??? Sorry to poke holes in your logic but perhaps a plan without GAPING holes will have more support.
Hey, I’d be for discontinuing the welfare program or the social security program or the paying politicians a salary program to put up that net. :P Common, put up your program for the good of the planet, or stop trying to convince us you seriously think global warming is an issue. It’s been 25+ years and we’ve yet to see any significant data that the humans on this planet are doing anything to effect or deter global warming.
Personally, I don’t think there is anything we CAN do. Not when our orbit is currently falling towards the sun and the sun is showing above average activity. In a few hundred years they’ll be complaining of global cooling since the planet will be moving away from the sun.
You know, I think the shuttle is a bad idea as far as trying to cure Global Warming anyway.
I mean, the exhaust of the shuttle when it launches… how many billions of BTU’s of heat is that?
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The best way to prevent global warming is for guys to not wear tight pants.
The best way to prevent global warming is for guys to not wear tight pants.
How much heat is involved in all the sex going on? That’s gotta be a lot of friction! Stop all sex! Now, we can cut down on methane production by liquidating elderly people before they reach the age of 60. Hmm, what else can we do? Oh yea! Teh human body puts out lotsa BTUs all the time, if we nuked China flat, maybe hit some of the collar countries, we could reduce a massive amount of BTUs into the atmosphere!
Then we could make it illegal to run the “clean” cycle on your stove and prevent the sale of heaters…how much heat do 151 million heaters produce every day anyway? That’s gotta have a big impact on the global temperature!
Where are you getting this above average activity for the sun? No one contends that it is anything other than the CO2 we are putting into the atmosphere.
But I suppose this is really something that you will look at and go “Hey wait a second maybe I should pay attention to this.” Or, “Those silly tree huggers trying to put Hard Working Americans out of work. Scaring folks with their silly theories.”
Where are you getting this above average activity for the sun? No one contends that it is anything other than the CO2 we are putting into the atmosphere.
Discovery.com
Discovery Magazine
Popular Science Magazine
Time Magazine
Physical Science Class I
Physical Science Class II
Astrology I
Just about any scientist that has the facts will tell ya that the sun’s been running overtime since the 1980’s resulting in more flares then normal, more sun spots then normal and thus more radiation then normal.
Discovery.com
Discovery Magazine
Popular Science Magazine
Time Magazine
Physical Science Class I
Physical Science Class II
Astrology I
thats the worst “works cited” page ive ever seen. the purpose of a works cited is to let the reader be able to locate the exact spot you found your information. unfortunately, the works cited was ungraded, but presenting it in such a grossly incorrect form shows contempt for the teacher/assignment/both. thats going to drop you to a D. your going to have to work to bring your average up this semester.
Astrology I
i didnt even catch that last time…so was it the sign of Aquarius or Capricorn that told you this info? were the planets aligned?
