L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22)

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 carriers and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 28 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 28 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 11 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States Place Units - Americans 3 carriers placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 marine placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai 3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 3 artilleries placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 98 Sea Zone British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Scotland to Gibraltar 1 battleship moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 90 Sea Zone to Suriname British take Suriname from Dutch 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India 3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Place Units - British 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 airfield placed in Gibraltar Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 132 Sea Zone: 1 battleship EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 40 Sea Zone: 1 battleship EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Eastern India: 3 aaGuns and 8 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Burma: 3 aaGuns and 8 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Italians regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : 0.33 British regular : 0.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from West US to West US Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from West US Sea Zone to Wake Island Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Wake Island Sea Zone to Wake Island Americans take Wake Island from Japanese 2 infantry moved from West Canada to West US Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from West US Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands Americans take Hawaiian Islands from Japanese 1 infantry moved from India to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to French Indo China Combat - Americans Battle in French Indo China Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in French Indo China 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 1 infantry moved from India to Sinkiang 1 transport moved from West US Sea Zone to North Pacific Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from West Canada to West US 1 infantry moved from Alaska to West Canada 1 aaGun moved from West US to Mexico 2 carriers and 3 fighters moved from West US Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from West US to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from West US to Midway 1 aaGun moved from West Canada to West US Place Units - Americans 2 transports placed in West US Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry placed in West US Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 1.17 Japanese regular : 0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 14 Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod Russians take Novgorod from Germans 1 infantry moved from Urals to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda Combat - Russians Battle in Vologda Russians attack with 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Vologda, round 2 : 3/13 hits, 2.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Vologda Russians win, taking Vologda from Japanese with 2 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 11 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Vologda 2 aaGuns, 8 artilleries and 60 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Northwest Persia 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Northwest Persia Turn Complete - Russians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.67 Russians regular : 0.17

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 10 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria Germans take Syria from French 1 armour moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt Germans take Egypt from British 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Poland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 5 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 5 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 bomber moved from Germany to Western Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary Combat - Germans Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 109 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Poland Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Poland Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Western Ukraine Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery Battle in Archangel Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Belarus Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Slovakia Hungary Germans attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Slovakia Hungary Germans win, taking Slovakia Hungary from Russians with 1 fighter and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 5 artilleries and 16 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 5 artilleries and 16 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 6/21 hits, 5.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 5 artilleries and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Holland Belgium to Southern France 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Western Germany 10 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Western Germany 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Western Germany 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Finland to 115 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 5 submarines and 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 5 submarines and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany 9 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Archangel to Novgorod 1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Germany 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Italy Place Units - Germans 3 artilleries placed in France 3 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 2 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3 Germans collect 52 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 0.83

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@simon33 said in 2025 Playoff-final - Ghostglider vs Adam514 (allied +22):

Congratulations to both players for qualifying and to Adam for the win, is this the third championship for Adam514? I am wondering about a couple of moves in the early stages if I may comment. From the Allies, i am wondering if an air strafe of fic and/or sending the dd to kill the Borneo transport would have been better. The air strafe world have allowed artillery to be bought early iirc, assuming it succeeded. I can live with the decision taken but it doesn’t stop me from wondering.

From the axis, many people shy away from the j1 dow in bm but assuming it is done in this way, i shy away from the attack on the sz37 bb, rightly or wrongly. One thing I can’t see is why the sz33 cv wasn’t used to defend the Borneo transport. This really out back Japan’s progress. I think am Overland route should take down India after a j1 on j5 unless a counter attack succeeds somewhere along the way. I had to work out the merit in using sz33 cv by trial and error but when i checked it was right there in the Japan playbook.

I also didn’t like the conquest of Normandy. What did the European axis gain from this attack? Maybe it was 4ipc but usa were then able to churn out units from this ic for most of the game.

At this point, i am going to plug my French rebalance which removes the ridiculous incentive to leave Normandy and s France French and takes care of a few other minor limitations, but uses about half of the changes from bm.

Sorry for the criticisms, I am sure I would have stuffed up other things against against Adam. Again, great work to get to the final for both players.

Art for China is a minor advantage in my opinion.

@Avner Edited ncm

I assumed no scramble from the US.

@FranceNeedsMorePower @Daaras

USA is up