Game set-Up:
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Game 2-PTV ArtofWar (Ax+12) v mikawagunichi (Al)
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@ArtofWar1947 Assuming obvious yes on scrambling from 74 but wanted to ask on the other options.
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Scramble to fighters to Tanganyika.
Other than Denmark, which is a definite NO scramble, I do not see any other possible scramble situations.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 20
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - Americans Americans repair damage of 2x airfield; Remaining resources: 72 PUs; Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from 27 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 9 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 76 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 artillery moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 artillery moved from Kenya to Tanganyika Territory 7 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Finland to 118 Sea Zone 7 artilleries, 3 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 11 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to 116 Sea Zone 7 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Denmark Combat - Americans Italians scrambles 2 units out of 74 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Tanganyika Territory Battle in Java Battle in Sumatra Battle in Denmark Americans attack with 7 artilleries and 12 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 2 cruisers in Denmark, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Denmark Americans win, taking Java from Japanese, taking Sumatra from Japanese, taking Denmark from Germans with 7 artilleries and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in 9 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 9 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 9 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 9 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Battle in Tanganyika Territory Americans attack with 1 artillery Italians defend with 1 armour and 2 fighters Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Tanganyika Territory, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 fighters in Tanganyika Territory, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Tanganyika Territory Italians win with 1 armour and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery Moving scrambled unit from Tanganyika Territory back to originating territory: 74 Sea Zone Moving scrambled unit from Tanganyika Territory back to originating territory: 74 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from 9 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 76 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 2 battleships and 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 84 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 84 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 85 Sea Zone to French West Africa 1 destroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in 115 Sea Zone 2 destroyers, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone Americans undo move 3. 2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 43 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5,4,4,2,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,6 Americans collect 62 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Hopei 2 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Szechwan Combat - Chinese Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 19 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 19 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 4/21 hits, 4.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 19 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Hopei to Eastern Sinkiang Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Eastern Sinkiang 2 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 1 battleship moved from 76 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 73 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 73 Sea Zone to Southern Persia 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia 1 bomber moved from Stalingrad to Southern Persia 2 fighters moved from 116 Sea Zone to Denmark 3 aaGuns moved from Finland to Norway Place Units - British 2 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in Southern Persia 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 112 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2,4,2,1,5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,3,3,2,1,5,6,3,4,6,2,3,1,2,4,3 British collect 21 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs Turn Complete - UK_PacificCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.33 Americans regular : 1.83 Italians regular : 0.17 Japanese regular : -0.83 Germans regular : -0.33 -
@ArtofWar1947 I thought possibly you may have wanted to sacrifice the Italian fig to improve Germany’s odds of retaking Denmark and keeping my fleet trapped.
Mikawa released his ships to operate independently of his flagship, and at 01:31 he ordered "Every ship attack."
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3 It. fighters inn Ethopia
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3d6<=3: 4, 2, 2; Hits: 2
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Did not see any point in sacrificing an Italian inf and a fighter (or two) for a likely outcome of 1 hit. Three hits, which would have helped seemed extremely unlikely.
\Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Archangel 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vologda Italians take Vologda from Russians 1 armour moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to French Central Africa Italians take French Equatorial Africa from Americans Italians take French Central Africa from Americans 1 armour moved from Tanganyika Territory to Rhodesia Italians take Rhodesia from British 1 armour moved from Rhodesia to Union of South Africa Italians take Union of South Africa from British 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia 1 armour moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo Italians take Belgian Congo from British 1 armour moved from Belgian Congo to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 93 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 93 Sea Zone Italians attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 93 Sea Zone Italians win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Archangel Italians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Archangel, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel Italians win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Ethiopia Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry British defend with 1 artillery Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Ethiopia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Ethiopia 1 infantry owned by the Italians retreated to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan British win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Ethiopia: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Ethiopia: 1 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Ethiopia from British to Italians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Leningrad 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to 83 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 fighter moved from 74 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 83 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 4 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 artillery moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 74 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 74 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Egypt 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Italians regular : -0.33 Russians regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.67 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: French round 20
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 aaGun and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales 1 infantry moved from Northern Australia to Queensland 10 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales 1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 aaGun and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 55 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,1,1,6,6,2,3,2,2 ANZAC collect 8 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Denmark Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Scramble to Denmark? Any preference on the order of fighter loss?
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@ArtofWar1947 Max scramble from both SZ. OOL = French, UK, US, Russian.
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Game History
Round: 21 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 1x airfield; Remaining resources: 61 PUs; Germans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Denmark 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Denmark 2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Denmark 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland Germans take Finland from Americans Combat - Germans Americans scrambles 3 units out of 116 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Denmark Americans scrambles 1 units out of 115 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Denmark Battle in Denmark Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 fighters; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 12 infantry; Russians defend with 3 fighters Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Denmark, round 2 : 15/28 hits, 11.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 7 fighters and 12 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 9/26 hits, 11.00 expected hits 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Denmark 12 infantry owned by the Americans and 3 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Denmark Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Denmark, round 3 : 10/19 hits, 9.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 7 fighters in Denmark, round 3 : 5/11 hits, 6.00 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Denmark 2 fighters owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Americans, 4 artilleries owned by the Americans, 1 fighter owned by the French and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in Denmark Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 8 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in Denmark, round 4 : 6/14 hits, 7.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Denmark, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Denmark Germans win, taking Denmark from Americans with 1 armour, 8 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 74 Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Americans: 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 12 infantry Casualties for British: 2 fighters Casualties for French: 1 fighter Casualties for Russians: 3 fighters Non Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 128 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Denmark to Leningrad 6 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 aaGun and 18 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 8 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 1 aaGun, 6 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Leningrad 10 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 2 artilleries moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Iraq to 82 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Baluchistan 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Yugoslavia 3 infantry placed in Leningrad 3 infantry placed in Iraq Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -3.67 Germans regular : 1.67 -
@ArtofWar1947 I think it’s time to concede this one. Tried one last ditch effort to rescue my trapped fleet. Turns out the Berlin treasury was filled with fools gold.
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Thanks for tremendously interesting game. The relentless Ally pressure required a high level of problem solving. The conquest of Germany made it exponentially more so.
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@ArtofWar1947 Thanks to you as well. Our games certainly have had some very unique board states.
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