OOB Oysteilo +40 v Gamerman01 with tech - UHD map

gamerman01

Afghanistan too? You’re ruthless!

oysteilo

@gamerman01 said in OOB Oysteilo +40 v Gamerman01 with tech - UHD map:

Afghanistan too? You’re ruthless!

hahahah, you have been waiting for it and asking yourself why it is not happening

Stupid map

oysteilo

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oysteilo

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 16

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 16

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 armour, 6 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
              Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians
        1 artillery moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 bomber moved from Turkey to Novgorod
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Afghanistan
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Novosibirsk to Afghanistan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Afghanistan
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Afghanistan
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Novosibirsk to Afghanistan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Turkey to Afghanistan

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Novgorod
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
            Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Afghanistan
            Russians attack with 3 armour, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Neutral_True defend with 4 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Afghanistan, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 4 infantry in Afghanistan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Afghanistan
                3 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Afghanistan
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Afghanistan, round 3 : 4/10 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 1 infantry in Afghanistan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Afghanistan
            Russians win, taking Afghanistan from Neutral_True with 3 armour, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Neutral_True: 4 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 0/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
        4 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 artillery moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Yenisey
        1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
        3 armour moved from Rostov to Turkey
        10 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Turkey
        5 armour and 16 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Belarus
        1 fighter moved from Turkey to Egypt
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Shensi to Anhwe

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Iraq
        3 infantry placed in Volgograd
        2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Russians collect 1 PU from War Bonds; end with 38 PUs
        Trigger Russians BM Archangel Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 60 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -1.00
Russians regular : -0.33
Neutral_True regular : 0.33

Savegame

oysteilo

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 16

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 16

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 armour, 6 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
              Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians
        1 artillery moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 bomber moved from Turkey to Novgorod
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Afghanistan
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Novosibirsk to Afghanistan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Afghanistan
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Afghanistan
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Novosibirsk to Afghanistan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Turkey to Afghanistan

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Novgorod
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
            Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Afghanistan
            Russians attack with 3 armour, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Neutral_True defend with 4 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Afghanistan, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 4 infantry in Afghanistan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Afghanistan
                3 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Afghanistan
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Afghanistan, round 3 : 4/10 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 1 infantry in Afghanistan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Afghanistan
            Russians win, taking Afghanistan from Neutral_True with 3 armour, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Neutral_True: 4 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 0/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
        4 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 artillery moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Yenisey
        1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
        3 armour moved from Rostov to Turkey
        10 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Turkey
        5 armour and 16 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Belarus
        1 fighter moved from Turkey to Egypt
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Shensi to Anhwe

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Iraq
        3 infantry placed in Volgograd
        2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Russians collect 1 PU from War Bonds; end with 38 PUs
        Trigger Russians BM Archangel Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 60 to 59
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -1.00
Russians regular : -0.33
Neutral_True regular : 0.33

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oysteilo

use second post, forgot to edit PU

Japan: watch out for the chinese, british, rusian tripple punch!

oysteilo

looks like the map is drawn incorrectly in Soviet east. It looks like japan can blitz through Dzavhan and enter Timguska. This is not possible in the original map

hence, can you edit my Timguska mech to Yenisey before you start Japan? Both mechs came from Novosibirsk

gamerman01

Whoa, I forgot a sub 🌊🥽🫧🐋 is needed in 125, huge oversight

Looking 👀
When I should have been looking 🚀

gamerman01

@Black_Elk @barnee

Guys, Oysteilo astutely pointed out Timguska is not supposed to border Dzavhan…

oysteilo

@gamerman01 said in OOB Oysteilo +40 v Gamerman01 with tech - UHD map:

Whoa, I forgot a sub 🌊🥽🫧🐋 is needed in 125, huge oversight

Looking 👀
When I should have been looking 🚀

Good to see you make smal mistakes too…🥶

barnee

@gamerman01

ok good lookout. Yenisey should hit Olgiy too. I’ll hit Elk up for a fix :)

Black_Elk

Oh damn good lookin’ out

OK here are the drive links with all the corrections made to the tile folders and the polys. I think Bill knows the drill, but should just be able to slide in the base and relief tile folders.

What I did was just to stretch Yenisey then hit the surrounding area with a bit of blur so it wouldn’t look to jank. Sorta best I could swing on short notice so I wouldn’t have to rework to much. Hopefully does the trick. I was a space cadet that first time, I mean I remember trying to fix the Novos-Kansu border so maybe that’s where I goofed zoning out. Who knows but good catch all the same! :)

Give the gang my best too! I’ve been out of town for ages. Took me a while to dig up my login here heheh

UHD map fix

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17NrUP1SFxKZsnQaNDnvhQk_qxtwomYEh/view?usp=sharing

Then I did the same for that other map UHD Boxes Expansion fix so they’d match up. Same deal there, it has the tiles already run through the breaker, but I threw the single images in too, like same thing you’d get from running the tile-reconstructor just in case. Called the zip Boxes for short.

UHD Exp Boxes

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_e54Q9_CnCBC9dl2LEfXuTWGHvHGk-5p/view?usp=sharing

Let me know if it does the trick for ya

Best Elk

Screenshot 2025-01-05 152429.png

barnee

@oysteilo @gamerman01 ok got it dialed thanks to Elkstar :) I have to redo place and update to git. Another hour or two. It should work on your current game.

Hopefully that’s the last one :)

P

barnee

@gamerman01 @oysteilo OK all dialed in now. You can DL latest and it’ll work with your current game.

oysteilo

@barnee said in OOB Oysteilo +40 v Gamerman01 with tech - UHD map:

@gamerman01 @oysteilo OK all dialed in now. You can DL latest and it’ll work with your current game.

Thanks guys, For some reason i am not able to enter the map section from the “download maps” button. I have tried to reinstal the software but still same error message:

Failed to download the list of available maps from TripleA servers. You can download the needed maps manually into your TripleA maps subfolder from https://github.com/triplea-maps/. FeignException$Unauthorized: [401 Unauthorized] during [GET] to [https://prod.triplea-game.org/maps/listing] [MapsClient#fetchMapListing()]: [Invalid request] If this problem happens frequently and is something you cannot fix, please report it to TripleA

Any suggestions on what i can do?

gamerman01

I’m not sure if I’m seeing the same thing as you, but I got it working, but it was quirky

Removed the UHD map and also the “boxes” map
Redownloaded them, but I must have done them out of order.

I downloaded the 2 maps (one under “Global”), and opened the game file until it worked. Once I think it might have said 100% on the boxes map, then it downloaded the main? file again, and the boxes again. Basically I got lucky after just kind of sitting there a bit after I got 100%.

So I don’t know if you could get that to work, I couldn’t describe it well because I basically just tinkered, or if the mapmakers’ download instructions will be easier.

I think I’m moving soon, Japan’s moves are kind of headspinning with everything from Africa to partway into Siberia, with the triple allies pushing in East China, and down to the strait of Magellan, but I think I’ve got most of it in my head.

At least I’m finally making a little bit of headway, cutting off the Chinese Burma road for like the first time the whole game. Doesn’t feel like much. Somehow Russia has the highest TUV in the world now

gamerman01

And about your Dzavhan catch… now that my tank can’t attack your mech, I remembered

A guy years ago (pretty good player) was complaining that tank purchases were always sub-optimal since mech cost 4 and tanks cost 6 and (he thought) mechs were always superior IPC for IPC. He was mainly doing calcs with big stacks, and depending on the makeup of the stacks, indeed mech are usually better.

But he didn’t take into account production limits (I’d rather have 8 mech and 2 tanks built on Germany than 10 mechs, or 3 tanks on a minor rather than 3 mechs) and also transport capacity (tank is the more powerful than mech or artillery on transport).

But now I realize another superiority of the tank even though it costs 50% more… On the open field in Siberia, a tank is 3/3 while a mech is but a 1/2 (not to mention the blitzing).

But your tac our there is messing it up. Will I actually attack the forward mech with a bare tank and follow behind it with mech/tank? LOL we shall see, probably not.

gamerman01

Indeed a tank at 6 is a bit expensive and you don’t see enough of the exciting unit. But a 5 is too cheap, unless you go back to the classic 3/2 ???

It’ll never happen, but I like my idea of doubling all IPCs for everything so that some things can be finetuned. Then you’d have infantry costing 6, mech 8, and you could have tanks at 11 instead of 12. (sigh) no one cares

barnee

@gamerman01

Glad you got it working. I’ve noticed that downloading in the prerelease it takes 3 times before the map is installed. Idky that is. I think it has something to do with unzipping the maps after dl.

Anyway, just let it continue to dl itself until done.

oysteilo

remember to move my mech before japan

I will look into the map, but if I cant get it to work I have a pretty good idea of how the map really is so it should be fine either way

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