L23/24 P2V Mainah X+7 v mr_stucifer L

@mr_stucifer said in L23/24 P2V Mainah X+7 v mr_stucifer L:

@mainah Submarines can only block solo transports so not sure what you have in mind there but yes go ahead 😅

I meant CA instead of CZ.

I played this forward a little bit, in tripleA as best as I could. I am 50/50 on whether or not this was the correct action, as it does set me back quite a bit against Russia, and I am not guaranteed in a recapture, or holding a recapture, of london.

@mainah
When you went for the scramble, I figured it was a trap. I figured if it was an error, you would have held back for use in the counterattack and the French Fig for re-enforcing a recaptured london,

@mr_stucifer said in L23/24 P2V Mainah X+7 v mr_stucifer L:

@mainah No worries I read it as cruiser still in my head. There’s no way to block the US transport due to the harbour in Gibraltar. It only serves to block reinforcements but can be cleared during UK Combat move then transports can move to SZ 112 still

Need the face smack emoji inserted here. Lol

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 4 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Politics - Germans
        Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
              Germans take Greece from Neutral_Allies
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 116 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

    Combat - Germans
        British scrambles 2 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in United Kingdom
        Battle in United Kingdom
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 2/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 bombers owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 4 aaGuns, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in United Kingdom, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                4 aaGuns owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 3 : 6/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in United Kingdom, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                1 infantry owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
            Germans captures 40PUs while taking British capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking United Kingdom from British with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for British: 4 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
        triggerBritishDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to British
        Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone
        Trigger Germany Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria
        Trigger Germany Occupies Tunisia Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Tunisia
        Trigger Germany Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Southern France
              Germans take Southern France from Neutral_Axis
        1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
        2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Austria
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        3 transports placed in 116 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 4 submarines placed in 115 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
        Trigger Germany Occupies Southern France Facilities: Germans has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 92 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 95 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 100 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 105 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 108 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 113 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 113 to 108
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Alexandria: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 115 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 107 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 116 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 115 Sea Zone: 3 transports
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 108 to 113
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British AA : 0.33
Germans regular : 3.00
British regular : -0.00

Savegame

@mr_stucifer
Last edit I swear.

didnt move the land units for the TT’s.

Not that it really matters. For some reason I had it in my head the US TT had to go through SZ 107.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 factory_minors; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla
        1 artillery moved from Davao to Manilla
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla
        1 marine moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 bomber moved from Siam to Borneo
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
              Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan
              Japanese take Honan from Chinese
        1 marine moved from Gilbert Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 48 Sea Zone to New Britain
        1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        2 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Guinea
        1 infantry moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in New Guinea
        Battle in New Britain
        Battle in Dutch New Guinea
        Battle in Solomon Islands
        Battle in Borneo
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 marine
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Borneo, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Borneo, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Borneo
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Borneo
            Japanese win, taking New Guinea from ANZAC, taking New Britain from ANZAC, taking Dutch New Guinea from Dutch, taking Solomon Islands from ANZAC, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Manilla
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Manilla, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Manilla, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manilla
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Manilla
            Japanese win, taking Manilla from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 bomber moved from Borneo to French Indo China
        2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manilla to 37 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        2 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsu to French Indo China
        2 fighters moved from Japan to French Indo China
        1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 32 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Marshall Islands to Caroline Islands
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Paulau to Caroline Islands
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Paulau to French Indo China

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China
        1 factory_minor placed in Shantung
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 7 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 43 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.67
Japanese regular : 0.83
UK_Pacific regular : 0.67

Savegame

@mr_stucifer
That hurts. Especially early in the game.

@mr_stucifer
Before you get clever enough to claw the initiative back, I have to figure out how not to hand it to you by utilizing the extra money wisely. Struggling with the purchase - gotta keep the british lion at bay, while knowing that every penny spent away from the eastern front gives Russia more time and breathing room it can use to change things.

Be a bit easier if i hadnt been in a hurry and actually read your warning prior to moving the CA and SS.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 infantry moved from Kenya to Belgian Congo
              Italians take Belgian Congo from British
        1 cruiser moved from 101 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Malta
        Battle in Egypt
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 harbour; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Egypt
            Italians win, taking Malta from British, taking Egypt from British with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 101 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Cyprus to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        1 bomber moved from Egypt to Greece
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 armour moved from Romania to Greece
        1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Albania

    Place Units - Italians
        1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 99 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
        Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.00
British regular : 0.33

Savegame

@mr_stucifer
You do not sound condescending at all.
I have been keeping in mind and thinking about how the enhanced scrambling affects everything. Still hard to plan for it - thankfully TripleA gives the warning.
The infantry train is on my radar. So are a few other ideas. Had to reign in the desire to go head to head with the fleets - you want to, and know you shouldn’t.

Still playing around with three general ideas for g3. Your aggression towards Scandinavia is causing some consternation. Would be an easier choice if it wasn’t for that.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 3

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 3

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 2 carriers, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 5 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 submarines moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
              Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland

    Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame