Guess yjay would be ok.
L23/24 P2V Mainah (X+9) v mikawagunichi (L)
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@mikawagunichi said in L23/24 P2V Mainah (X+9) v mikawagunichi (L):
@mainah First time I’ve ever done the strategy of buying air with Russia early with intentions of attacking the Italians. Was gonna fly them to Malta before but didn’t have enough there to protect the planes.
It’s seemed to have worked well for you. And it’s not something one normally keeps an eye out for.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 6 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia Japanese take Inner Mongolia from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan Japanese take Honan from Chinese 1 marine moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 2 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to 38 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java 1 cruiser moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone Combat - JapaneseCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@mikawagunichi
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@mainah no thanks
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 6 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia Japanese take Inner Mongolia from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan Japanese take Honan from Chinese 1 marine moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 2 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to 38 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java 1 cruiser moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 45 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in 38 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 transport in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 38 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 transport Battle in 56 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 56 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry and 1 marine Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 marine in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java 1 marine owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry and 1 marine Battle in Sumatra Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Sumatra, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sumatra Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Celebes Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine ANZAC defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Celebes, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Celebes, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Celebes 1 aaGun owned by the ANZAC lost in Celebes Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 marine in Celebes, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Celebes, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Celebes Japanese roll dice for 1 marine in Celebes, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Celebes, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Celebes Japanese win, taking Celebes from ANZAC with 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 armour moved from Hunan to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to Malaya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 56 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 carriers moved from 132 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 132 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to Fukien 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Shantung 1 infantry placed in Japan 3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 3.33 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 ANZAC regular : 0.67 British regular : 0.67 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 marines, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 3 marines and 1 mech_infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands Combat - Americans Battle in Marshall Islands Americans attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Marshall Islands Americans win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Caroline Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 3 marines and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Caroline Islands Americans win, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 3 marines and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to New Zealand 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States Place Units - Americans 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 11 Sea Zone 2 destroyers placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 2 artilleries; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Chinese Guerilla Kweichow: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Kweichow 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hunan Combat - Chinese Chinese creates battle in territory Kweichow Battle in Hunan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 6 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 2 artilleries placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 factory_minor; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 cruiser moved from 74 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 81 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 83 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese 1 transport moved from 74 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Iraq 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Brazil to French Guiana British take French Guiana from Neutral_Axis 1 armour moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to French Central Africa British take French Central Africa from Neutral_Axis 1 artillery moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia British take Ethiopia from Italians 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Combat - British Battle in Iraq British attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Iraq, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 83 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 aaGun moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 aaGun moved from Burma to Shan State 1 aaGun moved from Burma to Eastern India 4 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Southern Persia 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 109 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 11 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 1.00 Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -0.67 Neutral_Axis regular : 1.00 British regular : 1.17 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq 1 bomber moved from Greece to Iraq 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Crete to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan Combat - ItaliansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@mainah said in L23/24 P2V Mainah (X+9) v mikawagunichi (L):
@mikawagunichi said in L23/24 P2V Mainah (X+9) v mikawagunichi (L):
@mainah First time I’ve ever done the strategy of buying air with Russia early with intentions of attacking the Italians. Was gonna fly them to Malta before but didn’t have enough there to protect the planes.
It’s seemed to have worked well for you. And it’s not something one normally keeps an eye out for.
By my rough calculations, the TUV swing was about even. If this was BM4, and the other positions were the same, I would say the strategic position has improved slightly for the Axis. But this is P2V, and so I am unsure if that’s the same here. Your thoughts?
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Jumped the gun on the statement - the battle score will obviously affect the final TUV swing. The comment is based on actual results from your last battle + average results of the upcoming battle.
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@mainah Yeah it’s a difficult question to answer. A basic TUV comparison for the battles is a good starting point, but I try to think further down the road regarding how the lost units will affect the ability to generate income down the road etc. IME, one the Italians lose their fleet, they usually don’t make enough money to build a new one large enough to withstand any significant Allied attack. But it will be interesting either way.
And no scramble.
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@mikawagunichi
In BM4, Russia makes a lot less money, and sees its income steady reducing fairly rapidly. In that version, trading 7 Russian planes, early, for the Italian fleet with a Persian factory that is threatened and a 30ipc Italy would, in my estimation, be a slight net negative in the overall allied position.But P2V is a very different game. I have no reference to look at to have an informed opinion on the overall strategic situation in this game.
As you say, we will find out as it plays out.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq 1 bomber moved from Greece to Iraq 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Crete to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan Combat - Italians Battle in Trans-Jordan Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Russians defend with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Trans-Jordan, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Trans-Jordan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Trans-Jordan Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 2 armour, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 33 Casualties for Italians: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Battle in Iraq Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq Italians win, taking Iraq from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria Italians take Algeria from Neutral_Axis 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria Place Units - Italians 2 transports placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 airfield placed in Egypt Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1 Italians collect 21 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 24 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 31 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: French round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Combat - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 64 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Johnston Island 1 marine moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 fighters and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales 1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea Place Units - ANZAC 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs Combat Move - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 4 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from Gibraltar to 83 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 83 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad Germans take Leningrad from Russians 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus Combat - Germans Battle in Northern Belarus Germans attack with 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 5/26 hits, 8.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 83 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; French defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in 83 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 83 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 83 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 transport owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 83 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport Casualties for French: 1 destroyer Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Leningrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Leningrad Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Leningrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Leningrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans 2 fighters moved from 83 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 fighter moved from Romania to Iraq 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 3 aaGuns moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun and 11 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Germany to Poland Place Units - Germans 3 mech_infantrys placed in Romania 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany 1 destroyer placed in 115 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2 Germans collect 47 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 47 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 50 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -1.33 British regular : 1.17 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Leningrad Combat - Russians Battle in Leningrad Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad Russians win, taking Leningrad from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Northern Caucasus 1 artillery and 13 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 3 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals 2 aaGuns and 9 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 4 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 7 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Stalingrad 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 0.17 -
@mikawagunichi
I meant to post that I didn’t ask for OOL and I selected max D for the SZ 83 battle as it was a battle to the death. -
@mainah No problem that’s what I would have done.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 2 destroyers, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 38 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Shan State 2 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Hunan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Kwangsi 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Hunan Combat - Japanese Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Battle in Kwangsi Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Kwangsi, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangsi Japanese win, taking Kwangsi from Chinese with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 marine moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 56 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 aaGun moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Fukien to Japan 3 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to French Indo China 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 43 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 airfield, 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Shantung 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.33 Japanese regular : 0.67 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33
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