2v2 Round 3

@captainwalker did a NCM edit of a france AA in my S.Tunesia stack as I plan to vacate that territory next go.

please take the latest france post

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First

Game History

Round: 6 Politics - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Belarus: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Archangel: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Combat Move - Russians 3 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel 2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Archangel 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Volgograd 2 fighters moved from Russia to Archangel Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat - Russians Battle in Volgograd Russians attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Archangel, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 fighters moved from Archangel to Russia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Russia 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu 2 infantry moved from Yenisey to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kansu 1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 6 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara Place Units - Russians 10 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 18 PUs; end with 20 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 25 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0,00 Russians regular : -1,33

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@simon-tressel Enjoy!

Let’s take a break from 1914 then. Thanks for the games everyone.

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 22

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 22 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 10 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 10 infantry, 4 submarines and 5 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone 10 infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Combat - Americans Battle in Soviet Far East Non Combat Move - Americans 4 infantry and 1 marine moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 12 carriers, 2 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 20 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 marine, 3 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 2 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas 3 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas 3 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 22 Sea Zone 6 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Midway 4 fighters moved from Central United States to 4 Sea Zone 10 fighters moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters moved from Central United States to Gibraltar 2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 4 PUs Purchase Units - British British repair damage of 1x factory_major; Remaining resources: 45 PUs; British buy 1 armour, 8 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 6 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 8 fighters, 58 infantry, 11 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Persia to West India 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India Combat - British Battle in Holland Belgium British attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium 1 aaGun owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium British roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium British roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 5 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry Battle in West India British attack with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 8 fighters, 58 infantry, 13 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 8 fighters, 58 infantry, 13 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in West India, round 2 : 16/89 hits, 21.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in West India, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in West India 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in West India British win, taking West India from Japanese with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 8 fighters, 57 infantry, 13 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern Persia to West India 8 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from West India to Eastern Persia 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia 2 infantry moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 2 tactical_bombers moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia 1 fighter, 17 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun, 2 fighters and 3 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux Place Units - British 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Egypt 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone 8 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Normandy Bordeaux: 3 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 3 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -0.67 British regular : -6.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Chahar 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Chahar 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in Chahar Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Japanese win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 9/15 hits, 7.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 artilleries moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Manchuria 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Jehol 2 bombers moved from Chahar to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in Manchuria 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 marine placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.00 Japanese regular : 1.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 9 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 7 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 battleships, 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Philippines to 54 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 54 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 54 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island Combat - Japanese Americans scrambles 1 units out of Queensland to defend against the attack in 54 Sea Zone Battle in Midway Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Wake Island Battle in 54 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 12 fighters, 2 submarines and 12 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports; ANZAC defend with 3 carriers, 1 destroyer and 5 fighters Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 12 fighters and 12 tactical_bombers in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 14/31 hits, 17.50 expected hits Units damaged: 3 carriers owned by the ANZAC, 5 carriers owned by the Americans and 2 battleships owned by the Americans Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese Americans roll dice for 2 battleships, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 11 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 19/31 hits, 15.50 expected hits Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese 7 carriers owned by the Japanese, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone 3 submarines owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 12 fighters and 12 tactical_bombers in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 : 20/29 hits, 16.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 battleships, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 11 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 : 17/30 hits, 15.17 expected hits 6 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 10 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone 3 carriers owned by the ANZAC, 3 fighters owned by the ANZAC, 2 cruisers owned by the Americans, 4 destroyers owned by the Americans, 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 5 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 54 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in 54 Sea Zone, round 4 : 8/12 hits, 6.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 battleships, 8 fighters and 4 transports in 54 Sea Zone, round 4 : 8/10 hits, 6.67 expected hits 6 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese and 2 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone 2 fighters owned by the ANZAC and 6 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 54 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 54 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 battleships and 4 transports in 54 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 54 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 1 destroyer in 54 Sea Zone, round 6 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 4 transports in 54 Sea Zone, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 54 Sea Zone 4 transports owned by the Americans lost in 54 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Wake Island from Americans, taking 54 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17 Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 12 fighters, 2 submarines and 12 tactical_bombers Casualties for ANZAC: 3 carriers, 1 destroyer and 5 fighters Casualties for Americans: 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to French Indo China 6 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 artilleries moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 6 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in Shantung 3 fighters placed in French Indo China 4 fighters placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 66 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 7.17 Japanese regular : -1.67

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Alrighty, I take ze Reich. My turn will follow later this day.

New team game 16 opening post is now up on #41470. I will take G1 turn shortly.

Still need @dawgoneit to choose between Fra/Serb and UK.