L23 BM4 Mainah (X) v MrRoboto (L+15)

@MrRoboto

Holy crap!
All anyone can do at this point is laugh. It’s just absurd!

On the flip side - I have less than 20 games under my belt, while I have seen your record. So this at least gives me a chance to give you a challenge.

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Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 bombers, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 unit repaired.
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
        2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
              Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
        1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
        3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone
        6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            1 submarine owned by the British submerged
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 6.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                British roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                3 fighters owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone
                2 cruisers owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Germans: 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland
        3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
        6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria

    Place Units - Germans
        8 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        2 bombers placed in Western Germany
        1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 113 Sea Zone: 2 transports
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 114 Sea Zone: 2 transports
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Holland Belgium: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0.17
Germans regular : -2.83
British regular : 1.00

Edits: Adjusting NCM

@MrRoboto

When you edited from OOB to BM, you missed the Japanese inf and art that should be in Kwangsi. I added them in.

And the Korean guys to Manchu, and the Manchu to Jehol

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
        Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Kwangtung
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in 41 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            British defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 41 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in Malaya
        Battle in 54 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 54 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking 54 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Philippines
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Philippines, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Philippines, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
            Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 5 infantry; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 6 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 4 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 3 : 5/10 hits, 5.50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 5 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria
        4 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
        3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kiangsu
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        2 bombers moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Anhwe
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsu
        2 carriers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Shantung
        1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33
Americans regular : -2.17
Japanese regular : -4.33
UK_Pacific regular : -1.00

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@MrRoboto
Please hold off - I am going to adjust NCM. Away from my computer, will be later today

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When I was looking at it and adjusting NCM’s, it occurred to me that I shouldn’t have selected the default US/ANZAC casualties for SZ54. I think I should have chosen the two DD’s instead of the SS and 1 DD in the first round of combat, giving the US SS a chance to submerge if the defensive hits had been enough to sink the two Japanese ships, which means I would have selected my SS as a casualty so I could have hit the US sub on the second round of combat. So I edited to reflect that as well, swapping the japanese sub that survived with the DD instead. If you OK with this. Otherwise, we can re-roll the battle entirely on the forum.

Going forward, I’ll remember to save during combat so I can ask you for your choices.

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Sorry - this is the corrected file

@MrRoboto
Watch - they will break big for you on some crucial battle for Russia or calcutta

@MrRoboto
Tipped BB, tipped CV, DD, CA, tac, fig, carrier, bb

@MrRoboto said in L23 BM4 Mainah (X) v MrRoboto (L+15):

Btw, I am not okay with you changing the sub for a destroyer, I edited it back.
Dice have been rolled, so no re-rolling either.

No worries. I wanted the sub, just thought I erred in not giving your sub the possibility of submerging, and thus the optimum move for me at that point would have been to keep the DD and lose the sub so my air could continue to hit the sub.

Just make sure to ask for casualties in sea battles, especially when subs are involved.

I absolutely will do so going forward.