PanzerStahl vs barnee EXP

@Panzerstahl-Helm

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 ArmoredInfantry, 2 Escorts, 1 Heavy_BB, 2 NavyFighters, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 elite, 1 submarine, 1 transport and 1 usa_fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 2 Europe_Rails and 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States
        1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        2 usa_fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        2 usa_fighters moved from Gibraltar to 104 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans roll AA dice in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux rolls: 8 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor
            Bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux causes 6 damage total. 
        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 4 usa_fighters
            Germans defend with 1 GermanUBoat
                Germans roll Wolfpack_Attack dice in 104 Sea Zone : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 4 usa_fighters in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 GermanUBoat in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 GermanUBoat owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 destroyer and 4 usa_fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 GermanUBoat

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 2 Europe_Rails and 4 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 2 Rails owned by Americans in Alaska
        2 usa_fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 usa_fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
        1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
        1 ArmoredInfantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 elite moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 ArmoredInfantry, 1 elite, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 ArmoredInfantry and 1 elite moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 ArmoredInfantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Alaska
        2 usa_armours moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        4 NavyFighters, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 3 transports and 2 usa_armours moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
        1 usa_armour moved from Aleutian Islands to 8 Sea Zone
        4 NavyFighters, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 3 transports and 3 usa_armours moved from 8 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
        3 usa_armours moved from 3 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
        1 usa_fighter moved from Java to India
        2 Rails moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
        2 Rails and 2 infantry moved from Western United States to Alaska

    Place Units - Americans
        1 Escort, 1 Heavy_BB, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 Escort, 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
        2 NavyFighters placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 elite and 1 usa_fighter placed in Eastern United States
        1 ArmoredInfantry placed in Central United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Americans AdvancedProduction: Americans met a national objective for an additional 14 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Trigger Americans Loses Philippines Turn4: Americans met a national objective for an additional -3 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 Escort
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 101 Sea Zone: 1 Escort_Convoy
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceChinese: Chinese has 2 Rails placed in Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
        1 fighter moved from Sikang to Suiyuyan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Suiyuyan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Suiyuyan
            Chinese win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveChinese: has removed 2 Rails owned by Chinese in Szechwan
        1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Szechwan
        8 infantry moved from Sikang to Szechwan
        1 Rail moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
        1 Rail and 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Szechwan
        1 Rail moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
        1 Rail and 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Shensi
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs
        Objective Advanced Production 1 Infantry: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 11 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 7 infantry, 3 uk_armours, 1 uk_fighter and 3 uk_paras; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
        3 uk_armours moved from India to Yunnan
        2 uk_fighters moved from India to Yunnan
        2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
        1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq
        1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 infantry, 1 transport and 1 uk_armour moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
        2 uk_fighters moved from Scotland to Norway
        EDIT: 2 uk_paras moved from United Kingdom to Norway

    Combat - British
        Battle in Iraq
            British attack with 4 infantry, 1 uk_armour and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 3 infantry and 1 italian_para
                Italians roll ItalianAirborneAttack dice in Iraq : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship in Iraq, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 4 infantry, 1 uk_armour and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 italian_para in Iraq, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
                British roll dice for 3 infantry, 1 uk_armour and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 italian_para in Iraq, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                1 italian_para owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
            British win, taking Iraq from Italians with 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour and 1 uk_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry and 1 italian_para
        Battle in Yunnan
            British attack with 2 infantry, 3 uk_armours and 2 uk_fighters
            Japanese defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 infantry, 3 uk_armours and 2 uk_fighters in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                British roll dice for 1 infantry, 3 uk_armours and 2 uk_fighters in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                British roll dice for 3 uk_armours and 2 uk_fighters in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 3 uk_armours and 2 uk_fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
        Battle in Norway
            British attack with 2 uk_fighters and 2 uk_paras
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                British roll BritishAirborneAttack dice in Norway : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 uk_fighters and 2 uk_paras in Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 uk_para owned by the British lost in Norway
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
            British win, taking Norway from Germans with 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_para remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for British: 1 uk_para
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        2 uk_fighters moved from Norway to Karelia
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 transport and 1 uk_armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
        2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
        1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Persia
        2 Rails, 1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from Union of South Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        2 uk_fighters moved from Yunnan to India
        1 aaGun moved from India to Burma
        2 uk_armours moved from India to Burma
        6 infantry moved from India to Burma

    Place Units - British
        5 infantry and 1 uk_armour placed in India
        2 infantry and 2 uk_armours placed in Union of South Africa
        1 uk_fighter and 3 uk_paras placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2,2,1,2,5
        British collect 48 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs
        Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 56 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.17
Americans regular : 1.67
Italians regular : 0.33
Japanese regular : 0.00
Italians ItalianAirborneAttack : 0.00
Germans AA : -0.17
Germans regular : 0.17
British BritishAirborneAttack : 0.00
British regular : -4.50
Germans Wolfpack_Attack : 0.00

EXP Game 1 Stahl UK 4.tsvg

@Panzerstahl-Helm seems theres always something lol I forgot to move UK Ftr to Gib :)

GD it my machine fckn up. Got a grub error on startup with linux. Was able to get the old dell to fire up :) Never shoulda bought lenovo lol

Took a couple hours to remember old pw lol Already forgot it. I wrote it down this time though hee hee

Anyway, don’t think i can play on this old guy. Should be able to fix within 24 hrs or I’m even stupider than i thought lol

Rock on

@Panzerstahl-Helm well the machine magically fixed itself overnight. I’m sure it’ll happen again though.

I can’t fix it until it breaks, so if i go silent that’s why or I got dusted by one of lifes many hazards lol

@Panzerstahl-Helm I just noticed you have 3 Elites in PHI. You can only have 1 Elite per TTy. Including Allied ones.

I’m not worried about the Battle outcome, you were gonna win, but maybe kill 1 and put another back in china ?

Does that seem reasonable ?

Or actually, just put both back in china. You had plenty of dudes to win.

I guess one from JPN was with another dude on the trprt though and Hainin on the LCV.

Put one in Kwangsi and then kill one of the remaining in PHI ?

@Panzerstahl-Helm Awesome ! Will link document to Game Notes when you’re done. :+1:

Yea, so I tried deleting the Elites and since they were transported it won’t let you. You have to delete the trprt and it’s cargo at the same time and you can’t do it since there in two different places now.

Probably need to file a bug report. I think Panther set up a place here for them.

Anyway, edit the Elites where they need to go and a trprt to PHI. Then on NCM you can load up 2 Elites from PHI. Leave them onboard and during place kill them all.

@Panzerstahl-Helm F yea ! Document looking real Good :)

@Panzerstahl-Helm right on yea I only want to move 1 ftr. I’ll move the other back. Thanks for doing that though.

I will try and remove 1 Inf from PHI then ? You can always readd if needed.

Also, do you care if we activate CDG Neutrals ? We don’t have to lay with the rules, but we can if you want, I just like the flavor it gives to the map. Not all neutrals are just a bunch of Inf :)

@Panzerstahl-Helm

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Gibraltar: 1 uk_fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 uk_fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        ANZAC buy 2 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
        1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,3,6,2,2,4,6
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 18 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG Turn4: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 20 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

EXP Game 1 Stahl F 4.tsvg

I moved 1 UK Ftr from Gib back to UK. I didn’t do anything to Phi.

@Panzerstahl-Helm Oh yea, so when a Waffen Arty is in an Army, you need to edit in “Waffen_ArtyPG”

so that it won’t give it’s boost to Inf and Pnzrgrndr waffen units

@Panzerstahl-Helm I wonder if I should change it and give it a blue dot ? :thinking_face:

lol

@Panzerstahl-Helm ok I changed it to blue

put in your units folder and images inside doc folder so it’ll show up in Notes too.

The inactive PG’s are blue and so is the inactive USA AG flag, so it seems more consistent to have it blue and hopefully intuitive as well :)

@Panzerstahl-Helm here’s the Tacs They should rarely be needed.

@Panzerstahl-Helm Hmm … I just reread the rules and i don’t think I have it right.

A Waffen-v Oberst-Gruppenführer that is part of
a Waffen-v Armée cannot be supported by
Waffen-v artillery.

Units in a Waffen-v Army cannot interact with
units outside this Army: a Waffen-v artillery unit
outside this Army cannot support a
Waffen-v infantry unit inside this Army, etc.

So it seems Waffen Arty Can support Inf and Pnzrgrndrs inside an Army, just not the Oberst.
And Paratroopers too.

So unless you just had Panzers and Arty in the Army, probably rare occurrence, you wouldn’t need to deactivate the Arty.

However, if you had an Arty outside the Army with nothing to support, you’d need to deactivate.

There are only two of them, so this seems as if it’d be a rare scenario to even need them.

Well, whatever, we have them and I will clarify in Notes.

I’ll check AGs next in case I have that wrong too. Actually I will ping @The-Captain to double check if the above is correct.

I’ll give @VictoryFirst a hit too so he knows whats up

@barnee said in PanzerStahl vs barnee EXP:

So unless you just had Panzers and Arty in the Army, probably rare occurrence, you wouldn’t need to deactivate the Arty.
However, if you had an Arty outside the Army with nothing to support, you’d need to deactivate.

these are the only two situations I see Waffen Arty needing to deactivate.

I will update Notes. Tac Bmbrs not being able to support Tank Armies is correct and already explained in Notes.

Another rare instance. Just want to be as rule compliant as possible :)

@Panzerstahl-Helm Guten Morgen

Only 1 Army Active in a AG means that the Inactive Army does not get it’s bonus rolls. Its still participates otherwise.

The AG symbol itself, same as the Army/Corps Tokens, are for Informational purposes. The Active Flag in the AG Box is what provides the A/D rolls of 4 and 5.

I will do an example in local mode and post momentarily.