Scramble to sz97?
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@Myygames yeah, you put a little bit too many forces to threaten the United States fleet.
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-ITA2.tsvg
Game History
Round: 2
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Italians
Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
Combat Move - Italians
1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
Italians take Bessarabia from Russians
1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians
1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Baltic States
Italians take Baltic States from Russians
1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
Italians take Alexandria from British
1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
Combat - Italians
Battle in Malta
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Romania
2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Italy to Greater Southern Germany
Place Units - Italians
1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 2
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
Place Units - ANZAC
1 fighter placed in New South Wales
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Move - French
Non Combat Move - French
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 63 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 63 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris I saw that my japanese edit is not reflected in the current safe. I have traced and think that you have used the initial file with the allies.
I will redo this edit (1 Bomber Kwangsi to Caroline). I assume it does not change your ANZAC move, let me know if it does.
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-GER3.tsvg
I am sure you know that you need to declare war on Germany with Russia to prevent the NO bug. Pls dont forget ;-)
Game History
Round: 3
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
4 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
2 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Romania
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
5 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 119 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany
Place Units - Germans
1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris
AGRH!
Forgott to correct that damm japanese edit agin!
pls use this file.
@Myygames could you show me the note discussing the NO bug for Russia?
Sorry for the wrong version after Japan. I will make some minor non-combat edits in the Pacific that should not have impact on Italy or Germany’s decisions.
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
@Myygames could you show me the note discussing the NO bug for Russia?
This is trippleA miscalculating the political situation in Europe. Russia is at war in Europe (with Italy) and the German sub in 125 does prevent the NO for Russia, even though Russia is not at war with Germany. The rulebook says axis warship here which a German sub is.
I have no link to any discussion to offer, but I have asked the rule gurus of this forum several times in other games and they confirmed this to be a trippleA misbehavior every time. We can do again if you like.
@Myygames @Arthur-Bomber-Harris
have a look in Game Notes - it will be in there if I remember right
I object that the German sub shouldn’t disrupt convoys when not at war with either the United States or Russia, but it does appear to be the rule. I edited the PUs by -5 at the end of the R3 turn.
I truly despise those Italian tanks. Worth the sacrifice to get rid of them. l22-oob-final-ll-myygames-x-vs-abh-l-50-R3.tsvg
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 4 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
1 artillery moved from Belarus to Baltic States
1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
Combat - Russians
Battle in Baltic States
Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Baltic States
Russians win, taking Baltic States from Italians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
Battle in Eastern Poland
Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Eastern Poland
Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
1 armour moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Persia
1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Yunnan
1 aaGun and 11 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Russia
2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha
1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Russia
Place Units - Russians
4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Russia
1 infantry placed in Volgograd
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.00
Russians regular : 1.17
Unfortunately you are not allowed to move land units into territory containing friendly units during combat. I need clearance how to proceed…
Combat: A power can’t attack a territory controlled by or containing units belonging to a power with which it is
not at war.
@Myygames do you want to ask a moderator to arbitrate since I have always been able to attack Italy if Germany doesn’t DoW?
You can redo G3 if the ruling says I can attack these territories. I will redo R3 if I lose the dispute.
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
@Myygames do you want to ask a moderator to arbitrate since I have always been able to attack Italy if Germany doesn’t DoW?
You can redo G3 if the ruling says I can attack these territories. I will redo R3 if I lose the dispute.
Please check your rule book, page 14 in mine. My last post was a quote and it should leave no questions. If you do not find it we can ask the moderator for guidance.
both issues are dealt with in Game Notes:
(EM) If Russia is at war with Italy, but not with Germany, a German warship in sz125 will cancel Russia’s national objective (and same if at war with Germany but not Italy, and there is an Italian boat in sz125).
(PE) You may not attack a territory containing units owned by a nation that you are not at war with (even if the territory is owned by someone you are at war with).
@pacifiersboard said in L22 OOB FINAL LL Myygames (X) VS ABH (L+50):
both issues are dealt with in Game Notes:
(EM) If Russia is at war with Italy, but not with Germany, a German warship in sz125 will cancel Russia’s national objective (and same if at war with Germany but not Italy, and there is an Italian boat in sz125).
(PE) You may not attack a territory containing units owned by a nation that you are not at war with (even if the territory is owned by someone you are at war with).
That is great, did. not know that the game rules are so rich!
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris i agree that you should redo Russia.
@Myygames sure, will redo.
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Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 4 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Russians
Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
Combat Move - Russians
1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
Combat - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Sikang: 1 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
5 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
1 fighter moved from Archangel to Russia
1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Yunnan
1 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia
2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha
1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
1 armour moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Russia
Place Units - Russians
4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Russia
1 infantry placed in Volgograd
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Bryansk: 2 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 2 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
@Arthur-Bomber-Harris I think the attached safe is not the revised one but the old file. Could you attach the recent one pls?
sorry, didn’t save it properly. Redid the Russian turn.