oysteilo (X) vs. MrRoboto (A+20) BM

looks like someyhing needs to be sorted out here.

Honestly, I am not 100% sure of the rules here. So both your destroyers at phi are dead by kamikaze and it appears you transport has retreated due to my sub.

Still you have unloaded to phi while phil is still yellow with an attacking mech at start of italy. In addition you have collected +5 ipc for the yellow phil

I am unsure if the kamikaze attack counts as a sea battle, if it does, then you are free to claim the phil while my sub is there.

I will ask in the QandA section

Anyway. it is not right the way it stands now

can you edit your move the way you want it? Including your IPC according to gamerman01 ruling?

after a closer look I see you have done the edits and corrected the the PU. I just looked at the posted summary. I will go ahead then

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
        1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Northern Italy

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Northern Italy
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy
            Italians win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia

    Place Units - Italians
        1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.67
Italians regular : -0.17

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Not that easy to remove the mech, but it belongs on the transport so we will deal with it later

Game History

Round: 10

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 4x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 90 PUs; 
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
        2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        5 artilleries, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        5 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        2 bombers moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
              Germans take Suiyuyan from Chinese
        1 mech_infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Kansu
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Caucasus

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Scotland
        Battle in Eire
        Battle in Caucasus
            Germans attack with 5 armour, 8 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 8 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 12/38 hits, 11.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                2 artilleries owned by the British and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus
            Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Eire from Neutral_Allies, taking Caucasus from British with 5 armour, 8 artilleries, 2 bombers, 4 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        3 aaGuns moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
        2 bombers moved from Caucasus to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Russia to Shantung
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier placed in 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in Yugoslavia
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
        2 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in Volgograd
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
        Germans undo move 7.
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Yenisey: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Novosibirsk: 1 armour
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Russia: 3 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Volgograd: 3 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Novgorod: 3 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Bryansk: 3 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 2 artilleries and 12 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 2 artilleries and 12 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 72 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.33
British regular : -0.67

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Game History

Round: 10

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 0 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        4 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Hunan
              Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Anhwe
        2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Anhwe
        1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Anhwe
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 43 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 34 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 34 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in 43 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 43 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 43 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 43 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 43 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
        Battle in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 20 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 1 submarine
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 20 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 20 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 5 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 5 infantry
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
            ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Anhwe
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Anhwe, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe
                3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Anhwe, round 3 : 4/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Anhwe, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe
            Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 bombers moved from Anhwe to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        2 fighters moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Shantung
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Jehol
        1 mech_infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Timguska
        2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Jehol
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Anhwe to French Indo China
        1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Shantung

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Japan
        3 infantry placed in Korea
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Shantung
        2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 16
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 44 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,6,4,1,6,2,1,4,2,3,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6,5,6,3,4
        Japanese collect 47 PUs (16 lost to blockades); end with 53 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.67
Americans regular : 0.67
Japanese regular : -3.17
UK_Pacific regular : -0.33
ANZAC regular : 0.17

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it appears you are victim of incorrect ruling during last round. Do you want to challange it or do you want current view to stand?

I will not move before I hear from you,

Look in the Q and A section. I asked about the philipphines battle last round there and I think we did it incorrectly

More or less like that, but I could of course have attacked it last round, but could impact other things then. It becomes complicated because of “if that” and “what if”. Thats why I ask…

Probably, because it is a +7 for you. Cant letyou have that for free

I dont think I can do all my other battles if I am supposed to take it. I wont get to this now anyway. I am interested in getting this sorted out fairly so we can also sees advise from @gamerman01 and take it from there

How about this:

Initially i would have attacked Philips because of the +7 for usa and +2 for japan. I would probably have left one of the other smal batles behind. I dont think I have enough resources to do everything. And starting to mess around with rerolls and leave some battles as is seems complicated.

I thik we go with no Philips attack and give you +7. That means you just adjust your buy THIS past round with +7 for Japan, just place the extra units/edit your entre buy if you like on USA east or West Coast. In addition take -2 away for Japan. I have saved money both last two rounds so it does not make a difference. You need to save your tranny this round then.