I see, however you are correct. The “Sea Units Starting in Enemy-Occupied Sea Zones” - rules add to the regular Combat Move rules - they don’t suspend them.
Is J3 Smart?
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Should I wait until Turn 3 to attack as Japan?
My thoughts are that as Japan, gaining bonuses while depriving other nations of their bonuses. Japan can then build up troops and transports to take everything that it wants, and being able to focus the majority of its army on China, including air support that would normally be reserved for other focuses. I want to make sure that China will never rise, by taking Yunnan (Burma Road) as well as preparing to attack Kwangtung with infantry from Malaya on turn 3. On turn 1 I will normally build a minor industrial complex in Kiangsu
My would be objectives on a J3:
-capture French Indo China,
-capture one of the money islands in addition to Borneo
-capture Kwangtung
-capture Philippines
-capture whatever else I can in China
-prepare for an invasion of Malaya
-prepare invasion of ANZAC, if you do not, they will be an annoyance in the future.
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It depends. Did the Allied Player stack Yunnan via the Bid and Russian air? If so yes, I would agree it is better to wait to J3 to DOW. If Yunnan is not stacked then I would suggest a J1 to put more pressure on India.
@AxisPlayer14 said in Is J3 Smart?:
My would be objectives on a J3:
-capture French Indo China, Okay
-capture one of the money islands in addition to Borneo Why only 1? You can get all of them.
-capture Kwangtung Okay
-capture Philippines Okay
-capture whatever else I can in China Okay
-prepare for an invasion of Malaya You can take this assuming the Allied Player has vacated it. If not then hit Malaya and take 1 less Money Island
-prepare invasion of ANZAC, if you do not, they will be an annoyance in the future. Not going to happen. If Japan does a J3 ANZAC is already beefed up enough, with a protecting US fleet, to be perfectly safe.
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I would add that it does depend which version you are playing OOB vs BM4. In BM4 games, the additional NOs favor the allies in the Pacific, and preventing them the extra turns to build upon them can make J3 very good option.
OOB = J1 almost always.
I’ve only had limited experience with PTV, but it seems to play like BM4 so I would think it is better to wait in that case. But as I said, I haven’t played many games.
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If the Soviets stack their army in the Far East in Amur, it’s best to wait a turn or two while you destroy (or at least severely weaken, but generally neutralise) them on turn 1 and clear out any Mongolians.
I generally wait for the Allies to declare war for delusional reasons.
So yes, a J3 is preferable if you want to hit the Soviets and Chinese harder.
I also find it easier to transition from a J4 to a J3 than to a more risky J1.
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@AndrewAAGamer Thank you for the advice. I am still a fairly new player, so i’m trying to figure out good strategies.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato Thanks for commenting
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You’re welcome!
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@SuperbattleshipYamato Bid or no bid,playing OOB,I almost always do J1.The only thing that would get me to delay to J3 is if Germany really wants to do Sealion.In that case the axis needs to keep USA out of the war.
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To be honest, I haven’t really tried many Japanese opening moves that are J1/J2/J3 (as I said earlier, I usually wait for the US to declare war).
I think that if properly applied, J1 is certainly effective.
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@ampdrive That’s exactly what happened this game, and the uk player was new, so germany took uk easy
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Great!
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