TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Austrians attacked the Ottomans and won the air battle. Remaining forces take 50 hits. How do you want them?

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 24

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 22 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        3 units repaired.
        18 artilleries, 19 fighters, 95 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople
        8 fighters moved from Romania to Constantinople
        8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        4 fighters moved from Vienna to Romania
        1 infantry moved from Trieste to Albania
        1 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 artillery moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 artillery moved from Vienna to Trieste
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        11 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia
        5 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        3 artilleries moved from Spain to Marseilles
        1 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        1 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
              AustroHungarians take Tunisia from French
        1 infantry moved from Angola to South West Africa
              Germans take South West Africa from British
        1 infantry moved from German East Africa to Rhodesia
              AustroHungarians take Rhodesia from British
        1 infantry moved from Portuguese East Africa to Union of South Africa
              AustroHungarians take Union of South Africa from British
        1 infantry moved from Kamerun to Nigeria
              AustroHungarians take Nigeria from British
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Tuscany to Rome

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Air Battle in Constantinople
            AustroHungarians attacks with 27 units heading to Constantinople
            British launches 16 interceptors out of Constantinople
                Attackers Fire,  : 15/27 hits, 9.00 expected hits
                Defenders Fire,  : 7/16 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                7 fighters owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Constantinople
                15 fighters owned by the British lost in Constantinople
                Attackers Fire,  : 7/20 hits, 6.67 expected hits
                Defenders Fire,  : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in Constantinople
            Air Battle is over, the defenders have all died
        Battle in Constantinople
            AustroHungarians attack with 18 artilleries, 20 fighters, 95 infantry and 3 tanks
            British defend with 37 artilleries, 1 factory, 27 infantry, 1 port and 13 tanks; Italians defend with 1 infantry; French defend with 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 18 artilleries, 20 fighters, 95 infantry and 3 tanks in Constantinople, round 2 : 50/136 hits, 54.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 37 artilleries, 30 infantry and 13 tanks in Constantinople, round 2 : 36/80 hits, 35.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians
                33 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 2 infantry owned by the French, 21 artilleries owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the Italians and 26 infantry owned by the British lost in Constantinople
            British and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 72
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 33 infantry
            Casualties for British: 21 artilleries and 26 infantry
            Casualties for French: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        1 artillery, 22 infantry and 1 tank placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 79 PUs; end with 79 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Defenders Fire,  : 1.33
Attackers Fire,  : 6.33
AustroHungarians regular : -4.33
British regular : 0.33

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 24

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 battleships, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 unit repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia
        12 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Sevastopol
        3 fighters moved from Ukraine to Galicia
        12 infantry moved from Belgium to Picardy
        11 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Holland to Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium
        1 infantry and 10 tanks moved from Kiel to Holland
        1 infantry and 8 tanks moved from Berlin to Kiel
        1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from SZ 11 to SZ 10
        1 infantry moved from Bordeaux to Burgundy
        1 infantry moved from Burgundy to Picardy

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Mesopotamia
            Germans attack with 12 artilleries and 25 infantry
            British defend with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank
                Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries and 25 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 17/37 hits, 16.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 9/17 hits, 7.50 expected hits
                9 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 tank owned by the British, 1 artillery owned by the British, 10 infantry owned by the British and 5 fighters owned by the British lost in Mesopotamia
            Germans win, taking Mesopotamia from British with 12 artilleries and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43
            Casualties for Germans: 9 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        4 battleships placed in SZ 10
        1 transport placed in SZ 11
        3 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.67
British regular : 1.50

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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

@The_Good_Captain

Just take Paris, will you? I can’t stand to lose anymore (sorry if that sounded pathetic, but I do take this stuff slightly personally, even if I mean no ill will toward you, and I don’t like conceding).

Believe me, I am taking Paris as quickly as possible. The fact is, the force that is there is barely enough to do the job and can just as easily fail as succeed when I run the calc (they will be exposed to a decent French counter attack after entry). The tanks are coming up to do the job. You’ll just have to trust me when I say that this is a normal game when it comes to playing to the exact victory conditions listed in the manual. Concession is the norm and would totally be warranted at this point. But I can’t in good faith simply pull a trigger that has a chance at making the game go even longer.

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

@The_Good_Captain

I know, I’m acting like an idiot.

I believe you. Considering how you took Holland I hope that means I only have to endure a couple more turns of utter humiliation.

I really think if its not fun we should call the game. You played tenaciously and I even reached out to my buddy Ragnell804 to talk to him about how hard you’re fighting and how hard it is to truly bury the Entente - its not like this when the CP lose.

Its nobody’s fault the game designers decided to make the victory conditions so odd. I am up to 52 games completed of 1914, and yours are the only that are not played to concession. You should not feel humiliated and I’d hate to think that’s whats happening here (I’m incredibly impressed actually). I’d just hate to think that playing this way while you’re not having fun will make you hate the game.

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 25

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 19 infantry and 3 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        3 units repaired.
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Marseilles to Piedmont
        3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria
        8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople
        5 infantry moved from Romania to Sevastopol
        4 fighters moved from Romania to Constantinople
        11 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        18 infantry and 1 tank moved from Vienna to Galicia

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Constantinople
            AustroHungarians attack with 18 artilleries, 24 fighters, 70 infantry and 5 tanks
            British defend with 1 factory and 1 port; Neutral_Allied defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 18 artilleries, 24 fighters, 70 infantry and 5 tanks in Constantinople, round 2 : 48/117 hits, 48.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Constantinople, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied lost in Constantinople
            AustroHungarians win, taking Constantinople from British, taking Mesopotamia from Germans with 18 artilleries, 24 fighters, 70 infantry and 5 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from SZ 20: 1 mines
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to SZ 20: 1 mines
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        1 artillery, 19 infantry and 3 tanks placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 76 PUs; end with 76 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AustroHungarians regular : 0.00
British regular : -0.50

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Game History

Round: 25

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 5 battleships and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Mesopotamia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Mesopotamia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        12 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
        1 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
        3 fighters moved from Galicia to Hanover
        1 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        12 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Belgium to Picardy
        1 infantry and 10 tanks moved from Holland to Belgium
        1 infantry and 8 tanks moved from Kiel to Holland
        2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
        1 transport moved from SZ 11 to SZ 10

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        5 battleships placed in SZ 10
        1 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 62 PUs; end with 64 PUs

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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

@The_Good_Captain

It’s not just this game, I play almost all my games to victory conditions.

I still enjoy these games, even if the end is sometimes quite exhausting. It’s just a somewhat irrational desire to play to the very end.

I guess I got a little over the top with “humiliated”. It’s just sad to see my guys get defeated. Sort of how I guess those generals back in the day felt when they were losing.

I would like to still play.

I think you’re right that it’s much harder to defeat the Allies. I saw that when Tamer of Beasts beat you as the Allies he only did it in 10 turns. A number that shocked me when our games go past 12 turns, and in this case, 20.

Yeah, in Tamers game, I extended a concession on turn 5 because things were going so badly everywhere. However, I wanted to play out a few more turns just to be sure and Tamer obliged.