TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3

SuperbattleshipYamato

US Turn 10 Complete 1914.tsvg

The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 11

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        2 units repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Sevastopol: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Sevastopol: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople
        4 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        2 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        6 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
        1 fighter moved from Trieste to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Romania
        3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice
        1 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Venice
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
        1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        2 infantry moved from Venice to Piedmont
        7 infantry moved from Venice to Tuscany

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Tuscany
            AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries, 2 fighters, 26 infantry and 3 tanks
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries, 2 fighters, 26 infantry and 3 tanks in Tuscany, round 2 : 17/37 hits, 15.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tuscany
            AustroHungarians win, taking Tuscany from Italians with 6 artilleries, 2 fighters, 26 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Piedmont
            AustroHungarians attack with 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 infantry in Piedmont, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Piedmont, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Piedmont
            AustroHungarians win, taking Piedmont from Italians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Sevastopol: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Sevastopol: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 13 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 51 PUs; end with 52 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -1.00
AustroHungarians regular : 2.00

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 11

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Livonia: 1 tank
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        11 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Sevastopol
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Sevastopol
        2 fighters moved from Galicia to Sevastopol
        1 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland
        2 infantry moved from Berlin to Prussia
        3 infantry moved from Ruhr to Alsace
        2 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr
        2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
        10 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
        1 fighter and 10 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Sevastopol
            Germans attack with 11 artilleries, 2 fighters and 11 infantry; AustroHungarians loiter and taunt
            British defend with 1 infantry and 1 port
                Germans roll dice for 11 artilleries, 2 fighters and 11 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 17/24 hits, 13.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sevastopol
            Germans win, taking Sevastopol from British with 11 artilleries, 2 fighters and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        2 artilleries and 12 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 3.50
British regular : -0.50

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SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 11

    Puchase Units - French
        French buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Smyrna
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Lorraine to Belgium
        11 infantry moved from Picardy to Belgium
        11 infantry moved from Paris to Picardy
        1 infantry moved from Switzerland to Lorraine
        1 infantry moved from Switzerland to Lorraine

    Combat - French

    Combat Move - French

    Place Units - French
        11 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 11

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
                Ottomans roll mine dice in SZ 20 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Ottomans roll mine dice in SZ 21 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
        2 artilleries, 8 infantry and 1 tank moved from Ankara to Smyrna
        1 artillery, 10 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to Ankara
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Smyrna
        4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 tank moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
        3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        2 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 16
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to SZ 17
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 17 to SZ 21
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 21 to Romania
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 16 to SZ 17
        2 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Egypt
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Belgium to Ruhr

    Combat - British
        British creates battle in territory SZ 21
        Battle in Ruhr
            British attack with 1 artillery and 5 infantry
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Ruhr, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ruhr, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ruhr
            British win, taking Ruhr from Germans with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Romania
            British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            AustroHungarians defend with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the British lost in Romania
            AustroHungarians and British reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Romania: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from SZ 21: 1 transport
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to SZ 17: 1 transport
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - British
        4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 tank placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Ottomans mine : -0.33
Germans regular : 0.00
AustroHungarians regular : -0.17
British regular : -1.33

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Only after I did the battle in Romania did I change my mind about it. I’m sorry that I didn’t change my mind earlier and it definitely looks suspicious. Again, I apologise. Let me know if you want me to change that.

UK Turn 11 Complete 1914 Game 3.tsvg

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 11

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Place Units - Ottomans
        1 fighter placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs

O11.tsvg I am normally okay with and encourage edits to align with what player intentions are/were but in this particular case, I do feel strongly that we should accept the results of the move. First, it made complete sense to do it - any hits from the UK would have destroyed AH aircraft and there was a high probability of at least one hit. Second, it is in line with your playstyle of running transports through minefields. Given the high value nature of the move and the amount of dice thrown before changing your mind, for this one, I will have to insist we stick with the result.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Okay then. I was thinking of doing it with the Italians instead. No worries. I assume you edited it yourself?

Thank you for clarifying this rather troubling (though that isn’t the right word, more like unclear) matter.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

I do agree that if things worked out it would’ve been a logical and good attack.

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato I hadn’t done the edit yet, no. Might be a bit easier if you did - I actually didn’t look at the history to see what was where.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

No worries.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

[add on to the above comment but as you know we can’t edit stuff]

:+1:

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato I went ahead and did the edit. Go for Italy when you’re ready: O11 edit.tsvg

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Thanks a lot. I have a question about the rules and I’m not ready to go on until @Krieghund responds:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/40057/foreign-amphibious-reinforcement-and-bombardment

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato I see it. Generally speaking, with board game rules of any game, exceptions to any rule will be stated explicitly. If no exception can be found for a certain case, then the rule stands. But with this particular game, 1914, I don’t blame you for asking (haha).

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Agreed.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

I meant, in “[add on to the above comment but as you know we can’t edit stuff]” above, “because” rather than “but”, sorry about that.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Nooooo!!! Noooooo!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 11

    Puchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
                Ottomans roll mine dice in SZ 20 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Ottomans roll mine dice in SZ 21 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            1 transport lost in SZ 21
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rome to SZ 17
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 17 to SZ 21

    Combat Move - Italians

    Place Units - Italians
        4 infantry placed in Rome

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Ottomans mine : 0.67

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Crap, I forgot to unload American units from last turn. I fixed that.

TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3

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