@simon33 said in L25 G40 OOB Simon33 (L+44) v BobbaRossa (X):
Oh I am wondering if I am doomed in this game already.
Certainly anything can happen with the dice, but the odds are looking a bit long.
@arthur-bomber-harris said in 2022 2nd Ed OOB Playoffs R2 - AndrewAAGamer (X) vs ArthurBomberHarris (A+60):
1 sub hit and 3 regular hits. Casualties?
3 total hits or 4 total hits?
I show 3 hits total per the dice received. Tip BB, Tip 1 AC plus kill one SS
my screen shows three hits from the the Allied fleet excluding the subs.
1 of 2 hits for the destroyers: 4, 2
1 of 4 hits for the fighters: 6,3,5,6
1 of 1 hits for the tac: 4
Then add in the sub and there is a total of 4 hits on turn 1 for the Americans

Interesting. That does not match the roll I received. They are identical except for the tactical bomber.
MARTI marti@triplea-game.org
7:22 PM (3 hours ago)
to me, chemistryharris
Your dice are: 6,3,5,6,4,4,2
Have a nice day.
Wow - so it rolled the tactical bomber BEFORE the fighters!
I was also confused by the dice since I saw the same thing
So go with BB tip, AC tip, and 2 SS
You got 4 hits and I lost the carriers. I got 5 non-sub hits
AC tip, SS, DD, 2 AC hit
battle over. I retreated. No more questions until Anzac
Where is the AA gun for the Caucasus?
Hmm, It looks like it did not get edited in. Ok - never mind. Not sure how to fix it now that would be fair. At least I don’t owe you one now. :)
Yeah, you forgot a second time so I just went ahead. Only so many chances to make corrections in a playoff game
Game History
Round: 7
    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 56 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 3 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
    Combat - Americans
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 3 submarines
                Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                2 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
                2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                4 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
                1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 3 fighters owned by the Americans retreated
            Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -32
            Casualties for Americans: 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 4 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 3 submarines
        Battle in Caucasus
            Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 2 armour
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
            1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans retreated
            Italians win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
            4 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Java
    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Russia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Gibraltar
        1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
        2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 armour and 4 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
        2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 bomber moved from Western United States to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Gibraltar
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Western Australia
        1 armour moved from Queensland to Western Australia
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
        1 submarine moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 artillery moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States
    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
        Chinese buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Anhwe
              Chinese take Anhwe from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shantung
              Chinese take Shantung from Japanese
        2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        13 artilleries, 1 fighter and 13 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
    Combat - Chinese
    Non Combat Move - Chinese
    Place Units - Chinese
        1 artillery placed in Anhwe
        1 infantry placed in Anhwe
        5 infantry placed in Hunan
        Chinese undo move 3.
        1 infantry placed in Sikang
        1 infantry placed in Tsinghai
        1 infantry placed in Kansu
        1 infantry placed in Shensi
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan
        Chinese undo move 7.
        Chinese undo move 6.
        Chinese undo move 5.
        Chinese undo move 4.
        Chinese undo move 3.
        Chinese undo move 2.
        3 infantry placed in Shensi
        3 infantry placed in Hunan
    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 24 PUs
    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
        1 bomber moved from India to Caucasus
        1 fighter moved from India to Shan State
        1 fighter moved from India to Shan State
        1 armour moved from Burma to Hunan
    Combat - British
        Battle in Shan State
            British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
            British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Caucasus
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 armour
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
            British win, taking Caucasus from Italians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Russia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        3 armour moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
        1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
        1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Northwest Persia
        1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Shan State to India
        1 fighter moved from Shan State to India
        1 battleship moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 armour moved from Tunisia to Algeria
        1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Burma to India
        1 aaGun moved from Burma to India
    Place Units - British
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
        British undo move 1.
        1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
        1 infantry placed in Egypt
        1 infantry placed in Egypt
    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs
    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 armour placed in India
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Persia: 1 armour
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.33
Italians regular : 0.50
Japanese regular : -0.33
British regular : -0.17
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 7
    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Urals to Evenkiyskiy
              Italians take Evenkiyskiy from Russians
        1 armour moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey
              Italians take Yenisey from Russians
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              Italians take Alexandria from British
    Combat - Italians
    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Norway
        1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Archangel
        1 aaGun moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
    Place Units - Italians
        2 infantry placed in Southern France
    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,5,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,4,2,5,3,2,3,2,4,4,4,6,5
        Italians collect 5 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 7
    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 
    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from New South Wales to 42 Sea Zone
    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 submarines
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser
                ANZAC roll dice for 3 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 carrier owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in 42 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                1 battleship owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
            ANZAC win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for ANZAC: 3 submarines
    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Western Australia
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Western Australia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
    Place Units - ANZAC
        2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone
    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    Combat Move - French
        3 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
              French take Tobruk from Italians
        1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
              French take Holland Belgium from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 fighter moved from Persia to Russia
    Combat - French
    Non Combat Move - French
    Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 1.17
ANZAC regular : -0.67
@andrewaagamer said in 2022 2nd Ed OOB Playoffs R2 - AndrewAAGamer (X) vs ArthurBomberHarris (A+60):
AC tip, SS, DD, 2 AC hit
You did not take my casualties as stated above in the US/Jap battle. You took both DDs instead of the second AC. Thus, there should have been a DD in the battle with ANZAC instead of the tipped AC. Only difference is the DD would have fired back from the sub hit so I am owed a single dice roll with a hit on a 1-2. Since you were the active Player doing the rolling I will let you do the roll via Forum unless you want me to do it.