L22 Pejon_88 (X+10) vs. GeneralDisarray (A), PTV, semi final

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 16

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 16

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 5 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 11 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
        2 bombers moved from Davao to 55 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 55 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Eastern India
        1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        2 fighters moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 marines moved from Shantung to Kiangsu
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Anhwe

    Combat - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Americans owned units to: carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 55 Sea Zone: 3 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 55 Sea Zone: 14 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 55 Sea Zone: 6 carriers, 4 destroyers and 4 submarines
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: battleship = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

Post above after removing casualties. I will now try and continue in Live Mode in the engine.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 16

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 16

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 5 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 11 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
        2 bombers moved from Davao to 55 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 55 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Eastern India
        1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        2 fighters moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 marines moved from Shantung to Kiangsu
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Anhwe

    Combat - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Americans owned units to: carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 55 Sea Zone: 3 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 55 Sea Zone: 14 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 55 Sea Zone: 6 carriers, 4 destroyers and 4 submarines
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: battleship = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Battle in 55 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 14 fighters, 11 submarines and 13 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 15 destroyers, 10 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine, 11 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 4 transports; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser
                Japanese roll dice for 11 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 14 fighters and 13 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 18/33 hits, 18.67 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -1.33

Savegame

Then I got the same problem for round 2 during defense. I will do the same again since it feels safe continuing with max defense on your end. You will kill all my subs this turn anyway.

[dice 19d6<=1]
[dice 15d6<=2]
[dice 7d6<=3]
[dice 11d6<=4

The 11 at 4 or less weren’t rolled due to the missing ] at the end. Rolling below.

[dice 11d6<=4]

So another 18 hits each. Will remove my 18 and continue.

Will continue in the forum since I don’t see a way around how to access the engine without the same issue happening again.

Losses round 2:
Japan 11 subs, 1 des, 2 cr, 2 figs and 2 tacs
Allies 11 subs, 7 des

For round 3:
Japan
2 strategic bombers + 12 figs at 3 or less
1 battleship + 12 tacs at 4 or less

Allies
8 ACs at 1 or less
8 des at 2 or less
3 cr + 4 tacs at 3 or less
1 battleship + 10 figs at 4 or less

Japan
[dice 14d6<=3]
[dice 13d6<=4

Allies
[dice 8d6<=1]
[dice 7d6<=2]
[dice 7d6<=3]
[dice 11d6<=4]

OMG the Japan 13d6 were not rolled. Will roll now:

[dice 13d6<=4]

I read hits for Japan 5 + 9 =13 (12 since I rolled one tac too many, should have been 12d6…) and 0 + 1 + 1 +6 = 8 for Allies leaving the two sides with the following units:

Japan
10 figs at 3 or less
1 battleship and 8 tacs at 4 or less

Allies
6 ACs at 1 or less
3 cr + 4 tacs at 3 or less
1 battleship + 10 figs at 4 or less

This is soooo confusing and I apologise…

I realize I rolled the wrong dice last round for you since they made ACs 1 or less in PTV which I totally forgot in the middle of all this although I mentioned it in my first post. I went max defense for you, which would mean saving ACs before destroyers in BM3/4 or any other version of Axis and Allies… Hence you should’ve been left with more 2 or less instead of those ACs that grants you hits at only 1 or less…

I am at a loss and have kind of lost the appetite for this particular game. I will let you decide the best way forward from here, including you collecting the win which is anyway statically fair from before this battle even started. I won’t give other examples how to proceed since I don’t want to influence your decision.

Again apologies for messing up the forum rolls.

@GeneralDisarray True sportsmanship from you here. Something we see over and over again on this forum :)

Don’t you agree? @gamerman01

In that case I propose that I go to the battle in Live Mode and removing those casualties and going with max d for you the rest of the battle. I tried in Local and if I stay in the session I am able to follow through with the whole battle. I think the bug is related to closing and opening a game session so by doing it this way I hope it works. Shall I try?