L22 Pejon_88 (X+10) vs. GeneralDisarray (A), PTV, semi final

Pejon_88

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Rostov
        2 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Greece
            Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Greece
            Italians win, taking Greece from British with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
            Italians win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern France
            Italians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 3 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                3 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern France
            Italians win, taking Southern France from British with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
        2 fighters moved from Greece to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6,1,4,3,4,4,6,4,2,5,1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,5,5
        Italians collect 6 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1.33
Russians regular : -0.33
British regular : -0.33

Savegame

GeneralDisarray

@Pejon_88 F15!!.tsvg

GeneralDisarray

Game History

Round: 15

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 cruiser and 3 submarines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone

    Combat Move - French
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Non Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary

Pejon_88

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 16

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 16

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kazakhstan
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Kursk
        1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Southern Belarus
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Caucasus
        2 bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Kursk

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Southern Belarus
            Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Belarus
            Germans win, taking Southern Belarus from Russians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Kursk
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Kursk, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kursk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kursk
            Germans win, taking Kursk from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern Caucasus
            Germans attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Caucasus
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern Caucasus
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Southern Caucasus, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Southern Caucasus
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern Caucasus
            Germans win, taking Southern Caucasus from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Casualties for British: 3 infantry
        Battle in Kazakhstan
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kazakhstan
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
            Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Romania
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Romania
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus
        2 bombers moved from Kursk to Romania
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Romania
        4 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
        1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus
        1 armour moved from Vyborg to Northern Belarus
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Belarus to Leningrad
        4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        4 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        3 artilleries moved from Western Germany to France
        3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
        1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Finland to Norway

    Place Units - Germans
        3 infantry placed in Leningrad
        3 artilleries placed in France
        3 artilleries placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        9 infantry placed in Germany
        1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,1,5,6,5,2,4,4,6,5,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,3,1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 108 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
        Germans collect 51 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 51 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 1.67
Germans regular : 2.50

Savegame

GeneralDisarray

@Pejon_88 R16.tsvg

GeneralDisarray

Game History

Round: 16

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Tula to Kursk
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Southern Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria
              Chinese take Southern Manchuria from Japanese
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Southern Belarus
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Kursk
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Kursk
        1 fighter moved from Stalingrad to Rostov

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Kursk
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kursk, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Kursk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kursk
            Russians win, taking Kursk from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern Belarus
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Belarus
            Russians win, taking Southern Belarus from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Rostov
            Russians win, taking Rostov from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter moved from Rostov to Stalingrad
        1 fighter moved from Kursk to Russia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Belarus to Russia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kursk to Stalingrad
        5 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan
        2 infantry moved from Urals to Samara
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        4 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        2 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
        1 armour moved from Eastern Turkey to Western Turkey
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Northern Manchuria

    Place Units - Russians
        2 infantry placed in Urals
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.67
Germans regular : -0.67
Russians regular : 2.33

Pejon_88

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 16

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 16

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 5 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 11 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
        2 bombers moved from Davao to 55 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 55 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Eastern India
        1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        2 fighters moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 marines moved from Shantung to Kiangsu
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Anhwe

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 55 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 14 fighters, 15 submarines and 13 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 15 destroyers, 10 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine, 25 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 4 transports; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser and 3 submarines
                Japanese roll dice for 15 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 5.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 6 carriers owned by the Americans
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 14 fighters and 13 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 19/37 hits, 20.00 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.00

Savegame

Pejon_88

Believe I have to take this shot!!

25 hits, already assigned first 6 sub hits to 6 ACs. What about the next 19 hits?

GeneralDisarray

The last 2 AC wounds and 17 subs.

Pejon_88

@GeneralDisarray Ok! Just FYI received this when trying to continue. Will try again in live mode but wanted to show you now. No dice seem to have been rolled.

Pejon_88

@GeneralDisarray Tried several times, also in local mode and even then I cannot get past attackers 1st round. When I replayed in local from before starting combat I was able to follow through with the battle… I left a bug report. How do you want to proceed right now?

GeneralDisarray

@Pejon_88 Not really sure @gamerman01. Would like to see this play through. Maybe start another live game get the appropriate units set up and do the battle? What you think

gamerman01

It was working fine for both until just now?

Does the last save work for you, General?
If so, does Pejon just need to reinstall Triple A? Same version as has been working?

No one made a version change during this game, with this save file?

I’ll wait and see what your answers are before trying to think of other solutions

GeneralDisarray

@gamerman01 I will see if it works on my end this evening and no one changed versions here. I’ll let you know when I am able to check.

GeneralDisarray

Its giving me the same error. Even in single player mode. Not sure how to proceed in a mid battle situation. I mean you did slightly better then average roll opening round but how would you edit to a mid combat situation again. Only thing I can think of is if you get 25 hits again and just run the battles till you reproduce that same number. Just go max D first round for me. May be impossible to do but open for any suggestions here @gamerman01

GeneralDisarray

Or re create and ignored first round your let me hit back then edit the game. to the second rd with your 25 hits and whatever I got. What do you think?

gamerman01

Right, so you’re saying you can back up to a previous save and you’ll both be able to run again?

If so, you can definitely take care of things from there. There are 2 easier ways to recreate.

Edit the results to where you were, and then finish the battle with the forum roller. Then edit to the final result

or
2) You can make the combat moves in Triple A. Edit whatever battles were done, to the conclusion. Triple A won’t roll any dice if there are no enemy units. Edit the units in Triple A in that battle to the point you were at. I’m not taking the trouble to look again, but if you had a successful attacker roll and are waiting for the defender, then roll the defender on the forum, then edit his units away.

Experiment in local if you’re unsure and if you want to be careful not to roll MARTI dice and possibly create a controversy.

If you have any trouble, I can go into your save file and even resolve the battle for you guys if you get stuck.

Pejon_88

@gamerman01 Hi so good news are, I can easily load from before dice were rolled and get right back to where I started rolling dice. In addition, this was the first battle I decided to do so no other battles affected.

So the only solution is to roll defense round 1 here in the forum and then recreate the battle with losses from round 1? I would if possible avoid the hassle of rolling forum dice and recreating, but understand that it might be the only good solution?

gamerman01

@Pejon_88 said in L22 Pejon_88 (X+10) vs. GeneralDisarray (A), PTV, semi final:

@gamerman01 Hi so good news are, I can easily load from before dice were rolled and get right back to where I started rolling dice. In addition, this was the first battle I decided to do so no other battles affected.

YES. you can complete combat move, delete units in edit mode, exit edit mode, and roll the battle which will start with the attacker.
In the future, if it’s not the first battle, no problem just edit the rolled battles to their concluding point.

So the only solution is to roll defense round 1 here in the forum and then recreate the battle with losses from round 1? I would if possible avoid the hassle of rolling forum dice and recreating, but understand that it might be the only good solution?

Yes, you can’t stop it between attack and defense I don’t think, so roll the defense on forum. Then when you re-do the turn in Triple A, edit both sides’ units down to where they were at the end of the round, and start the battle from that point.

It’s not much of a hassle. Do you know how to roll forum dice?

Pejon_88

@gamerman01 Ok guys. That’s what I will do. Defense 1st round here and then try and re-create in the engine. Thanks gamerman!!

L22 Pejon_88 (X+10) vs. GeneralDisarray (A), PTV, semi final

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 15

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 16

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 16

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