I want to clarify a few things before we start:
Are we using battle calculators? Are we sending the files to each other here or over email? The play by email function is broken (technical issues) on my end, so we can’t use that (we’ll just have to use the local game function and I’ll track dice to ensure neither of us are cheating). I hope this is okay. Are we using research and development/tech rules?L22 Pejon_88 (X+10) vs. GeneralDisarray (A), PTV, semi final
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Will continue in the forum since I don’t see a way around how to access the engine without the same issue happening again.
Losses round 2:
Japan 11 subs, 1 des, 2 cr, 2 figs and 2 tacs
Allies 11 subs, 7 desFor round 3:
Japan
2 strategic bombers + 12 figs at 3 or less
1 battleship + 12 tacs at 4 or lessAllies
8 ACs at 1 or less
8 des at 2 or less
3 cr + 4 tacs at 3 or less
1 battleship + 10 figs at 4 or less -
Japan
[dice 14d6<=3]
[dice 13d6<=4Allies
[dice 8d6<=1]
[dice 7d6<=2]
[dice 7d6<=3]
[dice 11d6<=4] -
14d6<=3: 5, 6, 4, 2, 5, 6, 5, 1, 4, 1, 2, 4, 6, 3; Hits: 5
8d6<=1: 6, 4, 2, 3, 2, 4, 2, 5; Hits: 0
7d6<=2: 4, 6, 2, 4, 5, 6, 5; Hits: 1
7d6<=3: 4, 5, 5, 4, 2, 5, 5; Hits: 1
11d6<=4: 6, 3, 2, 3, 3, 5, 5, 3, 2, 6, 6; Hits: 6 -
OMG the Japan 13d6 were not rolled. Will roll now:
[dice 13d6<=4]
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13d6<=4: 6, 4, 3, 4, 2, 6, 4, 1, 6, 3, 4, 3, 6; Hits: 9
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I read hits for Japan 5 + 9 =13 (12 since I rolled one tac too many, should have been 12d6…) and 0 + 1 + 1 +6 = 8 for Allies leaving the two sides with the following units:
Japan
10 figs at 3 or less
1 battleship and 8 tacs at 4 or lessAllies
6 ACs at 1 or less
3 cr + 4 tacs at 3 or less
1 battleship + 10 figs at 4 or less -
This is soooo confusing and I apologise…
I realize I rolled the wrong dice last round for you since they made ACs 1 or less in PTV which I totally forgot in the middle of all this although I mentioned it in my first post. I went max defense for you, which would mean saving ACs before destroyers in BM3/4 or any other version of Axis and Allies… Hence you should’ve been left with more 2 or less instead of those ACs that grants you hits at only 1 or less…
I am at a loss and have kind of lost the appetite for this particular game. I will let you decide the best way forward from here, including you collecting the win which is anyway statically fair from before this battle even started. I won’t give other examples how to proceed since I don’t want to influence your decision.
Again apologies for messing up the forum rolls.
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@Pejon_88 I would not feel right taking the win here. That being said can we just start at the beginning of round 2 with 25 hits and 21 hits and just roll max defense the rest of the way? @gamerman01 open for suggestions here.
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I’ll wait for pejon reply, thank you for inviting me
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@GeneralDisarray True sportsmanship from you here. Something we see over and over again on this forum :)
Don’t you agree? @gamerman01
In that case I propose that I go to the battle in Live Mode and removing those casualties and going with max d for you the rest of the battle. I tried in Local and if I stay in the session I am able to follow through with the whole battle. I think the bug is related to closing and opening a game session so by doing it this way I hope it works. Shall I try?
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@Pejon_88 Ready when you are.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 16
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 16 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 5 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 unit repaired. 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 11 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India 2 bombers moved from Davao to 55 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 55 Sea Zone 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Eastern India 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 2 fighters moved from Shantung to Anhwe 5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 marines moved from Shantung to Kiangsu 1 fighter moved from Japan to Anhwe Combat - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: battleship = 1 EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Americans owned units to: carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1, carrier = 1 EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 55 Sea Zone: 3 submarines EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 55 Sea Zone: 14 submarines EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 55 Sea Zone: 6 carriers, 4 destroyers and 4 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in 55 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 14 fighters, 11 submarines and 13 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 15 destroyers, 10 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine, 11 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 4 transports; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser Japanese roll dice for 11 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 14 fighters and 13 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 17/33 hits, 18.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 11 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 3 cruisers, 15 destroyers, 10 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 4 transports in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 19/41 hits, 17.17 expected hits 3 fighters owned by the Japanese, 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 2 bombers owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese, 11 submarines owned by the Japanese and 2 cruisers owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone 11 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans and 8 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 11 fighters and 10 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 10/22 hits, 12.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 13 destroyers, 10 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 4 transports in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 13/31 hits, 15.17 expected hits 6 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese and 7 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone 10 destroyers owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 4 : 4/9 hits, 5.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 10 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 4 transports in 55 Sea Zone, round 4 : 9/21 hits, 11.83 expected hits 4 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 4 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone 3 destroyers owned by the Americans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 10 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -84 Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 14 fighters, 11 submarines and 13 tactical_bombers Casualties for Americans: 8 carriers, 15 destroyers, 11 submarines and 1 tactical_bomberCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -2.00 Japanese regular : -5.50 -
@GeneralDisarray Congratualations for making the finals, well played! :)
After having lost first Gibraltar costly and then much worse the German and Italian fleets which were resources I should’ve spent to crush USSR, I think the game was pretty much sealed.
Good luck in the final game!
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P Pejon_88 referenced this topic on
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@Pejon_88 Very well played. Had a answers for nearly every front I had coming in. Close game.
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@GeneralDisarray Yes I believe I could’ve kept a closed door if you hadn’t gotten the edge.
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