TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR

@superbattleshipyamato

Game History

Round: 6

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        6 infantry moved from Trieste to Albania
        1 tank moved from Trieste to Tyrolia
        1 fighter moved from Venice to Albania
        6 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Venice to Tyrolia
        2 infantry moved from Serbia to Romania
        5 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Serbia to Albania
        1 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
        1 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Romania
            AustroHungarians attack with 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Romania
            AustroHungarians win, taking Romania from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Albania
            AustroHungarians attack with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry
            Italians defend with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 4/14 hits, 7.17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Albania
            Italians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Battle in Tyrolia
            AustroHungarians attack with 7 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 tank
            French defend with 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 7 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 tank in Tyrolia, round 2 : 11/20 hits, 9.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Tyrolia, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 5 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Tyrolia
            AustroHungarians win with 7 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 5 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Finland from Russians to AustroHungarians
        EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Karelia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Finland: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tank placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.00
Italians regular : 1.00
AustroHungarians regular : -0.83
British regular : 0.50

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Game History

Round: 6

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Moscow: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Belarus: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia
        1 fighter moved from Belarus to Galicia
        1 infantry moved from Moscow to Tatarstan
              Germans take Tatarstan from Russians
        2 infantry moved from Moscow to Karelia
        9 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia
        4 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
        9 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        7 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Hanover to Ruhr
        1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland
              Germans take Switzerland from Italians
        1 infantry moved from Alsace to Switzerland
        5 artilleries moved from Alsace to Switzerland
        2 fighters moved from Alsace to Switzerland
        5 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Alsace to Ruhr
        1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Angola
              Germans take Angola from British

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Ukraine
            Germans attack with 9 artilleries and 5 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries and 5 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 8/14 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine
            Germans win, taking Ukraine from British with 9 artilleries and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ruhr
            Germans attack with 5 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 tanks
            British defend with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 5 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 tanks in Ruhr, round 2 : 8/28 hits, 11.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Ruhr, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the Germans
                2 artilleries owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Ruhr
            Germans win with 5 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
        Battle in Kiel
            Germans attack with 4 infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry and 1 port
                Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Kiel, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kiel
            French and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery, 2 fighters and 13 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 50 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.50
Germans regular : -3.33
British regular : -1.50

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@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

Which side do you think the game is biased toward?

I was unaware that the Allies had some really lucky rolls in this game. Thanks for bringing that to my attention (so I would know that this isn’t the norm).

The game appears to be significantly biased towards the Entente. However, it takes quite a bit of experience playing the game to make this obvious or to have this become obvious.

Not a big deal at all - its more like the CP aren’t hitting their numbers in a baffling way although the Entente numbers are warm. In any case, no biggy at all. This is more of a learning game I feel.

Another small heads up: when the French captured Kiel, the mines turned French as well (use the edit mode). This means the British have the option of moving in and reinforcing kiel on their turn without the threat of mine attack. Now that it is contested, it reverts back to a German minefield.

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

Oh right, I changed my mind after the fact that I would be loading two French infantry, not one infantry and one artillery to attack Kiel. I changed my mind before the battle started.

Again, no worries. Learning game. I’m having a lot of fun and hope you are too. And I am very appreciative of learning about those aligned neutrals. A lot of us had that wrong. But in yours, mine and all of our collective defense, the rulebook for 1914 is perhaps the least clear and poorest written in all of axis and allies imo (still a great game imo). I hear the re-release will have it tuned up though.

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Game History

Round: 6

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        6 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
        8 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
        2 fighters moved from Constantinople to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
        3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 artillery moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

    Combat - Ottomans
        Air Battle in Mesopotamia
            Ottomans attacks with 2 units heading to Mesopotamia
            British launches 1 interceptors out of Mesopotamia
                Attackers Fire,  : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Defenders Fire,  : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Ottomans lost in Mesopotamia
                Attackers Fire,  : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Defenders Fire,  : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Ottomans lost in Mesopotamia
            Air Battle is over, the attackers have all died
        Battle in Mesopotamia
            Ottomans attack with 6 artilleries and 18 infantry
            British defend with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 6 artilleries and 18 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 9/24 hits, 10.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 10/15 hits, 8.17 expected hits
                10 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 8 infantry owned by the British lost in Mesopotamia
            British and Ottomans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Ottomans: 10 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 8 infantry
        Battle in Belgian Congo
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry; French defend with 2 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 3 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Ottomans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Belgian Congo
            British and Ottomans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        7 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Defenders Fire,  : 1.33
Attackers Fire,  : -1.00
Ottomans regular : -2.00
British regular : 1.33

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@superbattleshipyamato

In Kiel, the French attacked and I feel fairly certain you didn’t mean to do this? So I edited the French inf and German inf back in to that territory. Just to be clear, you’re not obligated to attack in a contested zone and if you don’t want to attack in a contested zone you can just edit out your pieces prior to combat and edit them back in afterward. I’m working with another newish player on 1914 and can’t remember what I went over with who so if you didn’t know that, my apologies.

In the upcoming Italian turn for example - if you don’t want to attack with the Italians, go into the EDIT mode under the Game tab at the top and select and remove both italian pieces. Do the rest of your movements, combat, and then when you’re in the “non-combat” movement phase (which exists only in TripleA for this purpose-there is no NCM in 1914), replace the pieces and move on with your turn.

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

Thanks for editing the mines.

Curious that you only start to realise the game is biased towards the Allies after you play many times.

In my personal games against myself, the Central Powers sometimes win, but only with bad decisions by the Allies. Like you said, I’m not sure whether it was because of bad rolls of the dice.

This is not surprising to me. Since this module for TripleA has been out for less than a year, the handful of us who played in the beginning experienced the same result. This is because (imo) the Entente is far, far more intuitive to play than the Central Powers. However, once the non-intuitive nature of the CP is understood through experience, the playing field evens up pretty quickly.

That all being said, ‘grandmasters’ of 1914 sit down and both play perfectly, the Entente will win probably every time.

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

Cool. Hopefully you can tell me about that “non-intuitive nature” after we’re done (or maybe now if you’ll like).

Typing is terribly difficult to explain things but I do have a YouTube channel with (what I think) are helpful videos: Here’s a link to the intro video. The videos after the intro are strategy videos for each power and outline what I think are good plays for each side based on statistics and what each side trying to accomplish. Whatever is in the videos is exactly what I would try to type out here anyway. You certainly don’t have to watch them, I just mention them as a reason I likely won’t type out a response. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLmG_gyJQ_g