I might use some help with an allies game here

Two nights ago I set up a TripleA Global 1940 second edition no bids game. I set the AI to fast on both sides, and let them battle it out.

The Axis won in Europe. Japan had a good time, with the naval war being quite chill. Mainland Asia was intense though, with India constantly being quite a thorn in Japan’s side, Japan was counterattacking against British gains in China though.

Now that it’s done, here’s what I noticed (conversation starters, parts I want to discuss, and the most important parts are bolded):

There is a lot more cooperation between sides. For example:

US and UK fleets shielded each other in the Atlantic (the US and UK usually kept to their own navies when I played).

Germany and Japan heavily shared territory with each other (there wasn’t as much cooperation when I played)

Japan had a much more active role against the Soviets.

Keep in mind this cooperation may be because my games are different. The AI Allies went for full KGF, while my Allies (particularly US) seesaw between theatres. This leads to fewer navies and transports needing to cover each other (less exist in the Atlantic) and Japan needing to help Germany out more.

Britain, France, and ANZAC poured units (like 20 infantry, 5 aircraft, and 10 heavy equipment, keep in mind this is just an estimate) into the Soviet Union.

Is this a good strategy? The Western Allies moving units into the Soviet Union would result in the loss of 5 IPCs of bonus income to the Soviets.

AI Germany had a much higher infantry to artillery/ tanks ratio than I usually do.

The AI Allies clustered around East Africa.

Why are they doing this and is this a good strategy? Not sure whether to copy it.

AI Germany did a G2 and AI Japan a J2. This is very different from what I do, waiting for the Allies to declare war. Not sure what to make of this, since this choice is so momentous.

ANZAC moved their units all over the map. It’s probably for dan openers, though it’s still odd. Funny enough, ANZAC had a medium sized fleet of a battleship and an aircraft carrier.

The Allies declared war on true neutrals. Why?

What benefits does this gain for the Allies? It almost proved to be the downfall of the Allies (I won’t say it was, the scale and units involved were too much for 20 infantry to make a difference, though Turkey gave Germany a free pass in the Middle East.

Aircraft were often used by themselves to destroy ground units. I do the same thing, but I’m not sure if the AI is as stupid as me or so smart it actually thinks it’s a good idea.

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@tincanofthesea idk. I am going to try it in the Pacific map and see how it goes. Going to do a allied bid game (our first official one lol) because last game, allies didn’t really stand a chance. I wonder if there are “Blockade” markers at HBG, well if the shipping wasn’t so expensive I could buy those-

This will be my last 40 game before I will use the new stuff I got from HBG 🙂 maybe try to learn the G40 Balanced Mod (TheCaptain’s) + some extra stuff

Thanks.

Our Japan player elected not to use the J1 attack.  America came into the war on turn 2 though.  That worked out well for Japan overall as he was able to establish himself  better in the money islands before having to deal with America.

Germany elected to keep Russia out of the war the maximum 3 turns (Russia declared on his 4th turn).    He now regrets that and wants to play Germany again when we play our 2nd game and press Russia sooner.

When we play A&A G40 at my bunker it’s always with 6 players, and we play a fast game due to our unique turn system that has worked quite well for us.

Here’s how it works…

In a 6 player game…

1. Simultaneously the German player begins their purchase new units phase, the Russian player moves their eastern forces (18 infantry and 2 AA guns), and the Japanese player begins their purchase new units phase.

2. Simultaneously the German player ends their collect income phase, the Russian player begins their purchase new units phase, and the Japanese player begins their resolve combat phase and/or non combat movement phase.

3. Simultaneously the Russian player ends their collect income phase, the Japanese player ends their collect income phase, and the American player begins their purchase new units phase.

4. Simultaneously the American player ends their collect income phase, the Chinese player begins their purchase new units phase, and the British player (Europe) begins their purchase new units phase.

5. Simultaneously the Chinese player ends their collect income phase, the British player (Pacific) begins their purchase new units phase, and the ANZAC player moves their forces in Africa (2 infantry).

6. Simultaneously the British player (Europe & Pacific) end their collect income phase, the Italian player begins their purchase new units phase, and the ANZAC player begins their purchase new units phase.

7. Simultaneously the Italian player ends their collect income phase, the ANZAC player ends their collect income phase, and the French player conducts their entire turn.

8. Repeat…

PS: We have found that Japan is the real clock pig of all the nations. The player playing Japan should always be starting their purchase new units phase when Germany does, and they should always be ending their collect income phase when Russia does (or shortly after). This one little trick will save you at least 3 hours every game.

Those are some good ideas. I think to make this game balanced, I do need to make some adjustments. Just giving Italy the Axis NOs and ANZAC the Allied NOs doesn’t quite work. It seemed to be working for a while, but once ANZAC got the upper hand, it just gradually got worse and worse for Italy. I know that happens even in some games of regular A&A, but I don’t think there was any hope of Italy turning things around once ANZAC started getting ahead.
We just finished this game tonight. It took 15 rounds before Italy surrendered. For the first three rounds, Italy really grew and just about closed the gap between them. Rounds 4-8 were somewhat even between the two. If Italy did well on one front, ANZAC was doing well on another front. From Round 9 on, Italy was more and more defensive. ANZAC managed to take Japan and pretty much ruled all the Pacific and Asia within the next 2 rounds. Once all other Italian presence was eliminated, all ANZAC had to do is keep pounding on Europe until something gave way. Between amphibious landings every turn in Western Europe and a flood of tanks, mechs and planes rolling in from Russia, Italy was finding it harder and harder to maintain any kind of border.
For a while, whenever ANZAC would land somewhere in W Europe, Italy had enough to take it back. There were a few sparks of good for Italy, like when they sacrificed most of their European air force to kill the ANZAC fleet outside of England, including a stack of transports. That delayed ANZAC for a couple of rounds, but soon they were making landings again and Italy couldn’t afford a whole new air force to risk against the navy.
While playing the game this way makes each round go somewhat faster, it is pretty hard keeping track of all the different fronts. You literally have attacks going on in every point of the map on some turns. It’s a little easier when Germany is dealing with England and Russia, Italy is dealing with the Med and Japan is dealing with China and the Pacific. Still, it is kind of cool to be able to carry out ALL your ideas in the same turn.

cant wait for G40 on stable version :-D

@AllyAxis:

@orania:

There is a major IC in Paris. This isnt possible with A2 rules. Captured Major IC turn into a small one.

Really.  I didn’t see that one in the rules I downloaded.   No Majors in non native territory can be built.  but France falls to a minor?  Didn’t see that one at all.

Holy crap your right.  I guess it only mattered for France since Britian did not fall  or russia. Not sure if we placed that many forces there anyway.  Because the Germans did not build that many forces there throughout the game.  The italians moved troops in,  well maybe before berlin fell late in the game the Axis player on turn 9 may have built more forces there,  but largely he used the Italians to defend western Europe and built germans in West germany to defend Denmark.

Ultimately I don’t think it impacted our game or its outcome,  but will note that for the future!!!

I cant download for personal reasons until late 2day or 2morrow but i havent looked at the strat yet although i will try 2 find it. nice idea henz.