Wiz (X) vs Len (A+21) BM4 Game 1

@simon33 Scramble 3 fighters.

@crockett36 This is the video about how to download for forum play.

@zarhunter said in L25 BM4 Simon (L+22) v Zar (X):

@simon33

well, I read the game notes and there is a specific note about vichy france.

Fly-over restrictions applicable to other Neutral territories do not apply to Vichy French territory.

Unless I am missing something, Germany should have been able to fly over southern france. I do not see anywhere that just a US attacking SF, removes that restriction. It looks like a bug in the program unless there is a FAQ I am not aware of.

Oh I didn’t know about that. Yet another complication in Vichy.

wrt SF, either USA attacking it or the rule about flyover restrictions not applying allows UK to Algeria over SF. Was thinking you wanted to overfly SF earlier in the game but I can’t find that reference now, so perhaps a different game.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 11 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 2 fighters moved from 41 Sea Zone to Burma 1 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Urals Japanese take Urals from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk 1 bomber moved from Japan to 17 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Manchuria Combat - Japanese Battle in 17 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 17 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Caroline Islands Battle in Manchuria Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Manchuria, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Manchuria Japanese win, taking Caroline Islands from Americans, taking Manchuria from Chinese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Novosibirsk Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win, taking Burma from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Burma to French Indo China 3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 3 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 3 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea 1 artillery moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 2 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 7 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 fighters moved from Soviet Far East to Japan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Japan 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu 1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai 1 artillery moved from Szechwan to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan 1 artillery moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 armour moved from Yunnan to Shensi 1 bomber moved from Shensi to Philippines 3 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 tactical_bombers moved from 20 Sea Zone to Philippines 4 tactical_bombers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Shensi 5 fighters moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kweichow Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 infantry placed in Kwangtung 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,2,6,5,5,5,6,6,6,4,4,3,3,1,4,1,2,4,2,2,5,3,3,4,3,5,2,4,3,4,2,3,4,5,5,1,5,4,1,3,2,6,2,5,2,5,5,3,6,5,6,5,3,4,6,2,1,1,2,6,1,3,6,5,6,5,5 Japanese collect 58 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 58 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.33 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 0.00

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 16

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 16 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 18 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 2 fighters moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 3 artilleries and 26 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 9 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Albania 7 artilleries and 31 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 4 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Combat - Germans Battle in Novgorod Germans attack with 3 artilleries and 26 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 26 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 7/29 hits, 5.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 3 artilleries and 26 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Belarus Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Bulgaria Germans attack with 7 artilleries and 37 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 7 artilleries and 37 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 13/44 hits, 9.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Bulgaria Germans win, taking Bulgaria from Americans with 7 artilleries and 37 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Albania Germans attack with 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Albania, round 2 : 7/15 hits, 7.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Albania Germans win, taking Albania from Americans with 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 9 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Albania to Southern Italy 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 3 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone 6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 10 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria 2 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Italy 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania 2 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 2 fighters moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Italy 2 aaGuns moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Eastern Poland 9 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 122 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 122 Sea Zone to France 2 submarines moved from 127 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 10 infantry placed in Germany 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany 1 infantry placed in France Germans undo move 2. 3 infantry placed in Southern France 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3,6,1,3,6,5,5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,3,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 108 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5 Germans collect 49 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Holland Belgium: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern France: 2 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : 5.17

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Delayed response but a few things I will add:

I completely disagree with Adam514’s attack on Normandy G2. What did the Axis get from this attack? Only 4IPC to Germany and the axis lost a lot of units defending it UK3. I can’t imagine I will be dissuaded from this point either. Normally, the only time I would recommend an attack on Normandy is when there is a sea lion. I actually also disagree the Italians taking it which allowed the ownership to go to USA rather than UK. Just because I disagree with Adam doesn’t mean I’m wrong. 101 attack has an expected value of +6.5TUV so on paper it is worthwhile. Biggest problem that I have with this calculation is that it ignores the effect of stripping subs from 110/111. To me, the main benefit of the US1 Brazil landing is getting the infantry sooner. To do what? I’m not sure, I don’t use this move. One game I played against Axis-Dominion he landed USA on Morocco for the +5 bonus US1. Skipping the Yunnan attack for the SZ37 attack, I’m not a fan of. I’m not a fan of the SZ37 attack straight up because it trades a Japanese Cruiser (at a minimum) for the UK BB and the UK BB can’t participate in a US attack on the Japanese fleet, to put it simply. Without the Yunnan inf bid I prefer to leave an inf in Kwangsi so the Allies can’t stop land units from reaching Yunnan J2 but that is just my preference. India fell J4 which means it was a naval take down. This did require 30IPC in facilities but then Adam also saved an mIC vs what I normally do, which I expect to take India mostly overland J5. Getting it 1 turn earlier meant another 8IPC and maybe he also saved UK from getting 2-3 more inf. Still, I used to do it a fair bit but now I’m not convinced it’s a good trade.

@farmboy said in L25 BM4 Playoffs Adam514 (Axis) vs farmboy (Allies+18):

This is the third time I’ve beaten Adam’s Axis. But its the first time I’ve won where I feel that the dice didn’t do most of the work for me.

Hmm, was a few years ago I went looking for a time Adam had gone down as Axis, didn’t find any. Were these games relatively recently or did I just miss one?

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 armour, 1 bomber and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Caucasus Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov 3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 5 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to France: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 2,33 Russians regular : -0,67

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@mikawagunichi Yeah…crazy stuff happens if you go 30 rounds!!