@Jacob16 No scramble
Game 2 - L22 PTV Art of War (Ax+15) v 666 (Al)
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Scramble all 3 fighters.
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 destroyer moved from 27 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 28 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island 1 infantry moved from Manilla to Davao 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States Place Units - Americans 2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 58 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai 3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Combat - British Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Battle in 98 Sea Zone British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Italians, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29 Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 2 fighters Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter Battle in 109 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to New Brunswick Nova Scotia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 artillery moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Tanganyika Territory 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch 1 battleship moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma Place Units - British 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 transport placed in 40 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs Units Change Ownership Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 infantry and 1 marine Some Units in 40 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 transportCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.67 Italians regular : -1.17 Japanese regular : 1.33 Germans regular : -0.17 British regular : 0.17 -
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 99 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone Italians win, taking 99 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13 Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Albania 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Albania 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.33 British regular : 0.17 -
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Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 marines and 10 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Politics - Germans Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland Combat - Germans Battle in Scotland Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Germany Occupies Algeria Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Algeria Trigger Germany Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria Trigger Germany Occupies Tunisia Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Tunisia Trigger Germany Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Germany Occupies Morocco Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France Germans take Southern France from Neutral_Axis 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 5 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Germany 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary Place Units - Germans 2 marines placed in Western Germany 10 transports placed in 116 Sea Zone Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Germany Occupies Southern France Facilities: Germans has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ArtofWar1947 …Sealion….bold
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Got real tired of all the UK fighters piling up in the last game. :)
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@ArtofWar1947 Happy Thanksgiving
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Thanks. Best to you and yours.
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese Combat - Japanese Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Siam 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 132 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Kiangsi 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Marshall Islands to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 marine placed in Japan 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ArtofWar1947 just checking…Airbases can scramble to sea zones where there are only transports right?
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@666
That is my understanding. It is inconsistent with the scramble rule for CVs, but whos says the game rules have to be logical. -
“Air units can be scrambled to help friendly units in adjacent sea zones.” (Would have put the CA in SZ 116 otherwise.)
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In any case, it appears that the UK fighters do not have the range and landing on a built CV when there is no other landing area available is not allowed by the PTV rules.
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@artofwar1947 said in Game 2 - L22 PTV Art of War (Ax+15) v 666 (Al):
In any case, it appears that the UK fighters do not have the range and landing on a built CV when there is no other landing area available is not allowed by the PTV rules.
I agree with the AB scrambling into a sz that only has transports. I remember that being answered before. I just wish it was notated somewhere. And I was thinking about using the french Fgt, landing on a UK CV.
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Clever, which is why I am glad the rule implies to help ANY friendly unit.
I inquired once about about scrambling fighters to stop a UK landing from a US TT. My vague recollection is that the German fighters could not sink the US TT because it was not the US CM. I cannot recall if it prevented the amphibious assault. I believe it was a game against Trulpen last year.
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@artofwar1947 there are a few obscure rules like this that, things that don’t happen often enough for my older, damaged brain to remember, that aren’t clearly specified anywhere.
My difficult decision here is what to do, defend London and hope to inflict lots of damage or leave the UK and put the immediate resources elsewhere.
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And to make matters worse, running a simulation may or may not accurately reflect the rules. That is, I have run sims and then been told AA does accurately reflect the rules. Good grief!
Fight or flight is the bind intended–tough choice indeed.
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