Scramble?
Game 2 - L22 PTV Art of War (Ax+15) v 666 (Al)
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@ArtofWar1947 need to give UK a thought. That extra G transport poses a few issues.
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I understand; no rush.
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Scramble all 3 fighters.
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 destroyer moved from 27 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 28 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island 1 infantry moved from Manilla to Davao 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States Place Units - Americans 2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 58 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai 3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Combat - British Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Battle in 98 Sea Zone British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 3.17 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Italians, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29 Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 2 fighters Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter Battle in 109 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to New Brunswick Nova Scotia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 artillery moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Tanganyika Territory 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch 1 battleship moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma Place Units - British 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 transport placed in 40 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs Units Change Ownership Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 infantry and 1 marine Some Units in 40 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 transportCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.67 Italians regular : -1.17 Japanese regular : 1.33 Germans regular : -0.17 British regular : 0.17 -
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 99 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone Italians win, taking 99 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13 Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Albania 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Albania 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.33 British regular : 0.17 -
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Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 marines and 10 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Politics - Germans Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland Combat - Germans Battle in Scotland Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Germany Occupies Algeria Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Algeria Trigger Germany Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria Trigger Germany Occupies Tunisia Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Tunisia Trigger Germany Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Germany Occupies Morocco Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France Germans take Southern France from Neutral_Axis 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Scotland 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 5 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Germany 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary Place Units - Germans 2 marines placed in Western Germany 10 transports placed in 116 Sea Zone Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Germany Occupies Southern France Facilities: Germans has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ArtofWar1947 …Sealion….bold
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Got real tired of all the UK fighters piling up in the last game. :)
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@ArtofWar1947 Happy Thanksgiving
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Thanks. Best to you and yours.
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese Combat - Japanese Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Siam 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 132 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Kiangsi 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Marshall Islands to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 marine placed in Japan 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ArtofWar1947 just checking…Airbases can scramble to sea zones where there are only transports right?
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@666
That is my understanding. It is inconsistent with the scramble rule for CVs, but whos says the game rules have to be logical. -
“Air units can be scrambled to help friendly units in adjacent sea zones.” (Would have put the CA in SZ 116 otherwise.)
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In any case, it appears that the UK fighters do not have the range and landing on a built CV when there is no other landing area available is not allowed by the PTV rules.
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@artofwar1947 said in Game 2 - L22 PTV Art of War (Ax+15) v 666 (Al):
In any case, it appears that the UK fighters do not have the range and landing on a built CV when there is no other landing area available is not allowed by the PTV rules.
I agree with the AB scrambling into a sz that only has transports. I remember that being answered before. I just wish it was notated somewhere. And I was thinking about using the french Fgt, landing on a UK CV.
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Clever, which is why I am glad the rule implies to help ANY friendly unit.
I inquired once about about scrambling fighters to stop a UK landing from a US TT. My vague recollection is that the German fighters could not sink the US TT because it was not the US CM. I cannot recall if it prevented the amphibious assault. I believe it was a game against Trulpen last year.
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