@Ragnell804 gg, I concede
[Game 4] TGC (CP) v DoManMacgee (Entente) -oob, no bid, RR
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@domanmacgee that is very kind of you but I sorta have a “standard operating procedure” for this exact occurrence (its happened in other games). I’m not 100% on how perfectly fair this is but I think its good:
I will roll a single D5 in TripleA and the number that is rolled is the die that we will ignore from the attacking American role (read left to right - so if a “1” is rolled we ignore the first die, etc).
I don’t know if that’s perfectly “fair” statistically speaking for the defender but my intuition is that its more fair than simply ignoring an attacker hit. If you have some statistical knowledge on this solution, I’m all ears. At any rate, I will roll that die now and make EDITS if necessary.
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@domanmacgee I rolled a “3” on a D5. Position 3 was a registered “hit” so the game is good as per your edits.
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@domanmacgee scored 14 hits in Rome - how do you want them?
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@the_good_captain Thanks for giving that extra shot at giving the americans a hit.
Anyway for Italy: 4 Americans + 5 British INF + 5 Italian INF
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 11 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 1 unit repaired. 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Serbia to Romania 1 infantry moved from Serbia to Albania AustroHungarians take Albania from Italians 2 fighters moved from Serbia to Venice 5 fighters moved from Venice to Rome 7 artilleries, 20 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Tuscany to Rome 5 infantry moved from Venice to Tuscany 8 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice 1 artillery, 7 infantry and 1 tank moved from Vienna to Trieste 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from Serbia to Trieste Combat - AustroHungarians Air Battle in Rome AustroHungarians attacks with 5 units heading to Rome Italians launches 2 interceptors out of Rome Attackers Fire, : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Defenders Fire, : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Rome Attackers Fire, : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Defenders Fire, : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Rome Air Battle is over, the defenders have all died Battle in Rome AustroHungarians attack with 7 artilleries, 5 fighters, 20 infantry and 2 tanks Italians defend with 7 artilleries, 1 factory, 8 infantry and 1 port; British defend with 2 artilleries and 6 infantry; Americans defend with 4 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 7 artilleries, 5 fighters, 20 infantry and 2 tanks in Rome, round 2 : 14/34 hits, 14.83 expected hits Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from SZ 21: 1 mines EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to SZ 21: 1 mines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Italians roll dice for 9 artilleries and 18 infantry in Rome, round 2 : 15/27 hits, 13.50 expected hits Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians 13 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 4 infantry owned by the Americans, 5 infantry owned by the Italians and 5 infantry owned by the British lost in Rome Italians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 13 infantry Casualties for Americans: 4 infantry Casualties for British: 5 infantry Casualties for Italians: 5 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Place Units - AustroHungarians 11 infantry and 1 tank placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 1.50 Defenders Fire, : -1.00 Attackers Fire, : -1.33 AustroHungarians regular : -0.83 -
@domanmacgee casualty selection for the Ruhr. (CP rolled +3/+4 ish)
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@the_good_captain Kill all the brits then take as many F INF as are needed.
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@domanmacgee still have to eat 7 more hits after that
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@the_good_captain Oh whoops you’re right. Tanks first then ART.
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 fighters and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 units repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1 EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these French owned units to: tank = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Switzerland to Lorraine Germans take Lorraine from French 1 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland 2 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace 7 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 10 artilleries, 12 fighters, 26 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Munich to Ruhr 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 3 fighters moved from Berlin to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 8 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Livonia to Poland 4 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Livonia Combat - Germans Battle in Ruhr Germans attack with 12 artilleries, 15 fighters, 32 infantry and 3 tanks British defend with 5 infantry and 1 tank; French defend with 18 artilleries, 19 infantry and 2 tanks Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries, 15 fighters, 32 infantry and 3 tanks in Ruhr, round 2 : 31/62 hits, 26.67 expected hits French roll dice for 18 artilleries, 24 infantry and 3 tanks in Ruhr, round 2 : 20/45 hits, 21.50 expected hits Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the Germans 17 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 tanks owned by the French, 1 tank owned by the British, 18 infantry owned by the French, 5 infantry owned by the British and 5 artilleries owned by the French lost in Ruhr French and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 56 Casualties for Germans: 17 infantry Casualties for British: 5 infantry and 1 tank Casualties for French: 5 artilleries, 18 infantry and 2 tanks Battle in Alsace Germans attack with 2 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Alsace Germans win, taking Alsace from French with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 3 fighters and 9 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -2.00 Germans regular : 4.67 -
@the_good_captain Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - French French buy 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Ruhr: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Allied to Ruhr: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from Picardy to Lorraine 2 infantry moved from Burgundy to Switzerland 2 fighters moved from Paris to Switzerland 2 fighters moved from Paris to Lorraine 3 artilleries, 12 fighters and 2 infantry moved from Belgium to Alsace 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy 13 artilleries moved from Ruhr to Belgium 1 infantry moved from Arabia to Syrian Desert French take Syrian Desert from Ottomans 1 infantry moved from Gold Coast to SZ 23 Combat - French Battle in Alsace French attack with 3 artilleries, 12 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry French roll dice for 3 artilleries, 12 fighters and 2 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 7/17 hits, 7.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Alsace French win, taking Alsace from Germans with 3 artilleries, 12 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Lorraine French attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry French roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Lorraine French win, taking Lorraine from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Switzerland French attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry French roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Switzerland, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Switzerland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Switzerland French win, taking Switzerland from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_Allied from Ruhr: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Ruhr: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - French 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 0.33 Germans regular : 0.00 -
@domanmacgee Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Allied to India: 12 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 12 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Allied to Rome: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Rome: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Germans roll mine dice in SZ 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Smyrna 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 battleship moved from SZ 28 to SZ 17 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from Belgium to SZ 9 1 infantry, 1 tank and 1 transport moved from SZ 9 to SZ 6 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from SZ 6 to Karelia Combat - British British creates battle in territory SZ 6 Battle in Karelia British attack with 1 infantry and 1 tank Germans defend with 1 infantry and 1 port British roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tank in Karelia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the British 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia British win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Smyrna British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Americans loiter and taunt Ottomans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Ottomans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Ottomans lost in Smyrna British win, taking Smyrna from Ottomans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Rome: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_Allied from Rome: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_Allied from India: 12 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 12 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - British 1 artillery and 11 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.50 Ottomans regular : -0.50 British regular : 0.33 Germans mine : -0.17Can you do me a favor and do:
-1 F ART to Alsace
+1 F INF to Belgium?I forgot that allied units don’t count for the “1 INF per territory” thing. I brought 12 FTRs to Alsace against 1 INF so the dice shouldn’t statistically be an issue.
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@domanmacgee gotcha - and just a heads up, armor don’t absorb hits on an amphibious assault so I have to edit that off too.
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@the_good_captain said in [Game 4] TGC (CP) v DoManMacgee (Entente) -oob, no bid, RR:
@domanmacgee gotcha - and just a heads up, armor don’t absorb hits on an amphibious assault so I have to edit that off too.
Are you sure? I read Page 22 as them not being able to absorb the hit from the defender’s artillery bombardment. Was there a FAQ?
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huh…I’ve never read that interpreting it as only applicable to the pre-invasion artillery strikes but, yes I am fairly certain it is meant to be applicable to amphibious attacks:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39334/amphibious-reinforcement-and-tanks-question
However, just to make sure I have it right, I will ask him a clarifying question.
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Ottomans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Alsace: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Belgium: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Ottomans buy 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Ottomans 4 infantry moved from Persia to India 1 tank moved from Persia to India 6 fighters moved from Mesopotamia to India 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna Combat - Ottomans Battle in India Ottomans attack with 13 artilleries, 8 fighters, 18 infantry and 1 tank British defend with 13 artilleries, 1 factory and 12 infantry Ottomans roll dice for 13 artilleries, 8 fighters, 18 infantry and 1 tank in India, round 2 : 18/40 hits, 19.83 expected hits British roll dice for 13 artilleries and 12 infantry in India, round 2 : 9/25 hits, 12.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the Ottomans 7 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 1 fighter owned by the Ottomans, 7 artilleries owned by the British and 11 infantry owned by the British lost in India British and Ottomans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 34 Casualties for Ottomans: 1 fighter and 7 infantry Casualties for British: 7 artilleries and 11 infantry Battle in Smyrna Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 9 infantry British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 9 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Smyrna British and Ottomans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 artillery Combat Move - Ottomans Place Units - Ottomans 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank placed in Constantinople Turn Complete - Ottomans Ottomans collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Ottomans regular : -4.50 British regular : -5.50O12.tsvg in the meantime, here is O12
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@the_good_captain Thanks for that. Didn’t know you already had a thread open.
Agreed that we can just play on, as the result of your ask won’t matter until Germany’s next round (when I assume you’ll be wanting to dive on Karelia again).
OOL? I assume all INF but figured I’d be safe as USA’s turn is right after this.
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@domanmacgee drop one AH fighter and drop 5 AH infantry
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@the_good_captain Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from Piedmont to SZ 17 2 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Rome 1 infantry moved from Nigeria to Kamerun Combat - Italians Battle in Rome Italians attack with 7 artilleries, 1 factory, 5 infantry and 1 port; British loiter and taunt AustroHungarians defend with 7 artilleries, 5 fighters, 7 infantry and 2 tanks Italians roll dice for 7 artilleries and 5 infantry in Rome, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits AustroHungarians roll dice for 7 artilleries, 5 fighters, 7 infantry and 2 tanks in Rome, round 2 : 12/21 hits, 10.17 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 1 fighter owned by the AustroHungarians, 7 artilleries owned by the Italians and 5 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Rome AustroHungarians win with 7 artilleries, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is -22 Casualties for Italians: 7 artilleries and 5 infantry Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 fighter and 5 infantry Combat Move - Italians Place Units - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Rome: 1 artillery and 3 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery and 3 infantry were produced but were not placed Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.00 AustroHungarians regular : 1.83 -
@domanmacgee Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Allied to Smyrna: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Smyrna: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 13 4 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1 1 infantry moved from Togoland to SZ 23 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 23 to SZ 14 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 13 to SZ 14 3 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 16 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 16 to SZ 17 1 battleship moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Tuscany 3 transports moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17 Combat - Americans Battle in Tuscany Americans attack with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry AustroHungarians defend with 5 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 battleship in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 3 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits AustroHungarians roll dice for 5 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Tuscany AustroHungarians and Americans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United States of America Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33 AustroHungarians regular : -0.50
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