Nearly a catastrophic mistake there.
Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch
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Here’s another example where it matters if amphibious assault is done first. I have to do Shan State before Burma (I know I don’t have to convince you that it matters, it’s just that most players are skeptical when I teach them this, and so I notice) :)
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Those dice were crazy. I won’t say any more because I wouldn’t want to see any details from my opponent before opening the game.
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Yes, and another reason is, if you conquer landing zone for planes from ac lost in battle or scramled planes could not land anymore. Or it would be better for attacker to capture landing zone in land battle first.
I am surprised of your attack with Japan. I am very interested to see how you play this szenario.
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 16 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 16 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar Combat - Chinese Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 11 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 2 factory_minors and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 artillery moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to 80 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 39 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Kenya 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Malta to Kenya 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tobruk to Libya British take Libya from Italians 1 armour moved from Libya to Tobruk Combat - British Battle in 93 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone British win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Kenya British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Kenya, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya British win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 bomber moved from Kenya to Tanganyika Territory 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 artillery moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia 1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Persia 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt 1 artillery and 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 32 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,1,4,2,2,6,5,1 UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 artilleries and 3 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0,67 Americans regular : -0,17 Italians regular : 0,17 Japanese regular : 0,33 British regular : 1,17 -
@elche said in Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch:
Yes, and another reason is, if you conquer landing zone for planes from ac lost in battle or scramled planes could not land anymore. Or it would be better for attacker to capture landing zone in land battle first.
Great point
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Oh, looking at it again I maybe wasn’t as lucky as I thought. But those last two rounds of blanks from the Allies in Burma made me feel like I was getting away with murder.
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Amphibious before other battles,
Kenya before Z93
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Zone 93, submerge submarine, or not?
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Only need 1,2. Please let the sub fight.
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Sorry for the mistake. Its more difficulty with scramble option. If you choose scramble the battle begins… Sometimes I cannot close the scramble window.
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You feel like murder in Burma. As Revanche I will do Kamikaze in sz93.
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I’m going to assume you submerge the sub in Z93 for round 2
I sunk the destroyer and you missed, so it’s
SS, 2 FTR, 1 BMB
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SSIf you want to fight, you can roll it when doing your ANZAC/France turn. Otherwise, we’ll leave it with UK sub and Italy sub co-existing in Z93
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Never mind that, I’ll retreat the sub
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes ANZAC take Celebes from Dutch 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Place Units - ANZAC 1 factory_minor placed in Queensland Turn Complete - ANZAC Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 62 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6 ANZAC collect 17 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 58 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Nigeria to French Equatorial Africa 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt 3 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Thanks for the sub
I have a rule question please. From my running game.I can attack or bomb India with 3 b, defense is 1 art and 1 fig.
If I attack with 2b and bomb with 1b and he did airbattle.
Did my 2b only attack the art or the the fig too ? -
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Russians Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to Unprovoked Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Combat Move - Russians Trigger Russians Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Russians 1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea Russians take Korea from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Baltic States 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia Combat - Russians Battle in Karelia Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Western Ukraine Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Karelia 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus 1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 1 artillery moved from Russia to Vologda 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia 6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria 1 aaGun moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia 3 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia 5 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey Place Units - Russians 2 infantry placed in Novgorod 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,3,1,6 Russians collect 36 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 36 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 41 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 43 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@elche said in Elche (+18) vs Gamerman01 (x) BM4 rematch:
Thanks for the sub
I have a rule question please. From my running game.I can attack or bomb India with 3 b, defense is 1 art and 1 fig.
If I attack with 2b and bomb with 1b and he did airbattle.
Did my 2b only attack the art or the the fig too ?Only the artillery
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It’s great having a move a day - I’ll see if I can keep up.
Thank you for the regular moves, it’s fun





