Question about Oztea’s 1939 map

Thanks! Aside from being slanted toward the Axis like in Anniversary 1942 it is a great change of pace.

Deck of cards, one for each neutral.

Start of each player turn, top card is drawn and disposition of country is determined.

Each neutral will have a scaled historical bias based on likelihood of joining each side, expressed as a number in favour of either side.

Each side places a secret bid in IPCs from their banks to influence the result, winner gets control. Money bid by both sides is considered spent. Ties are replaced in bottom of the deck.

Result could also be influenced by other factors, for example presence of units in a bordering tt.

Cards can be placed in “historical” order by number based on when they were first engaged, or shuffled for random events.

Card drawn for neutral already attacked is ignored.

OR

Cards are dealt randomly to the players (half for each side for balance or same for each power?). Maybe 5 cards per side with a draw deck. Start of every player turn, that player can play a card from hand for each side to bid upon.

Hmm.  Good point, knp.  I’m beginning to see why Larry chose the start point he did  :-P

Gargantua,  I’m beginning to like your idea of a double impulse for Germany.  It would probably be simpler.  I have a copy of the old Xeno rules, with the regular sized map and the giant blown-up version.  But I hadn’t looked at the rule book in years.

Actually, the more I think about it, there probably wouldn’t be much to gain (in the way of game-play fun) with a Sept. '39 start.  I was originally thinking it would give the Axis a couple of extra turns to shape the battlefield before the US and USSR got into it, in exchange for having to do some extra conquest.  It might also give the French player more options than just getting punched in the groin and being taken out before he can make a single decision.

I think Summer of '42 would be the simplest start point, but it seems so late in the war somehow.  At that point all the decisions that might have made a difference have already been made, and fate has locked everyone in to repeating the historical outcome.  I know the games don’t actually go that way.  It’s just a mental hang-up for me  :-)

Maybe I’ll rethink an idea I had for a Summer of '41 scenario starting with Germany massed on the Soviet border for Barbarossa.  Since a single turn could represent 6 months, Barbarossa could be early on turn 1, and Pearl Harbor could happen right at the end.  That would the need for US entry rules, and most of the neutrals who were historically dragged in would already be in play.

I like the concept, but it’s way to much work…

Just playing Global as it is is hard enough for most people.  Let alone including supply managment.

GER 11:  This Alpen Festung is pretty confusing.  I think I could pull it off, but not sure everyone would follow how I interpret it.

So “during combat” is vague.  When do I announce this retreat?  Before combat, during combat, during retreat?

When do the allies get to attack these newly converted berzerker infantry?  During the same combat move?

Can I continue to put more Germans in the Alpen Festung in future turns?

If the Allies leave or are kicked out of Germany does it revert back to normal?

Can I do it again if they show up again?

I like the concept, but it sounds troublesome.

–-------------- I love how you call them berzerker infantry. LOL!!!

The German player is allowed to create a “national redoubt” if
the territory of Germany has been attacked by allied forces. During combat German units can retreat to
this virtual territory. All retreating units are converted to Infantry to resemble a true guerrilla campaign
fought in the mountains of the Alps. Furthermore the Allies do not gain the income of Germany even if it’s
subsequently captured by them. To take the income Allies must capture the virtual territory and must score
two hits in combat to destroy one land unit. Hits are allocated on damaged ‘guerrilla’ units first before a
non- damaged unit is selected.

The allies attack Germany the Germans can still retreat even if surrounded to the fortress. All these new units now take 2 hits to kill until they are all dead jim. Allies don’t get Germany money either… thats still under German control–(Germany controls the factory)… so yes you can place new units in the fortress but your only getting Germany territory income. Its basically like pulling the iraq insurgency to prolong the game.

It DOES read one level of technology transferred between one SIDE per turn.

so if axis as a group obtain 4 tech slots, only one level can pass from one nation to another that turn.

Soviets don’t share or receive secrets.

thats just fine.

ahh ok good.