What the hell is wrong with you amaricans!

Today, the 6th of August, in 1284 the little known naval battle of Meloria was fought between the  powerful city states  of Genoa and Pisa. It was a Genoese victory, which marked the end of Pisa as a power in the region and would see it absorbed in 1406 by the flourishing banking and textile rich city of Florence. A position as leading Tuscan city which she would hold for hundreds of years, under the clever and super rich Medici family.

One of the losing Pisan Admirals, Count  Ugolini, can be found in the Florentine poet Dante’s Inferno.
He is in the Ninth Circle with Satan punished for treason, found forever gnawing on the Archbishop Ruggieri who betrayed, imprisoned and starved him and his family.

Still MIA… Worth a thread Necro!

No, the address in not correct. As you say, Complejo de la Moncloa is correct (I also checked the official page)

But there is not “Republic of Spain” since 1939. That country doesn’t exist now. Spain, now, is a kingdom and her king is Juan Carlos I. That should say “Kingdom of Spain”. It’s funny because it’s not the first time: Jeb Bush also made the same mistake in a conference in Spain a couple of years ago, and in a tennis championship in Australia, they put the republican national music (Himno de Riego) instead the used now (Marcha Real). Imagine the face of Spannish tennists  :lol:

And Rodriguez Zapatero is not the Prime Minister. He is the President of the Government (even if he makes basically the same than UK Primer Minister)

Is also funny that such errors sometimes happen in Spain. Not the republican"" error, but sending letters to a non-existant minister or to a place where the official building was there 5 years ago but now is in another place  :-D

I agree. Al Qaida is almost exclusively a Sunni group made up mostly of Saudi’s.

I just misread your sentence “I have not yet encountered a hostile Iraqi, most of them are in fact, of Saudi background.” as being that you have not encountered hostile Iraqi’s who had emmigrated from Saudi Arabia and I was thinking that any Saudi who emmigrates to Iraq is probably up to no good….

@Jermofoot:

How would a guy under a pile of cops hurt anyone? He wasn’t even on PCP.

I think CC covered this, should they sit on him for 10 minutes? 20? 2 hours?

@Jermofoot:

Actually, there has been much debate about not only the lethality of a taser, but also the excessive employment of them.  People have died from being tased, there are records showing that cops are more likely to use the taser since it is considered nonlethal.

I don’t know how the laws are inother places, but in AZ you can’t use “less than lethal” on someone unless it has been used on you.  In other words the cops here have all been tazed and pepper sprayed.  They know exactly what it does and how it works.

@Jermofoot:

Unfortunately, we can’t just silence what we don’t want to hear.  A discussion must include even the fringe arguments that are unlikely.

Yeah we can.  You may have freedom of speech, but I also have the freedom to tell you to be quiet if I don’t want to hear it in my house.  I can hold my hands over my ears, mI can turn off the TV/Radio.  And if you’re on my property I can tell you to shut up or leave.

@Jermofoot:

What could possibly be more to the story?  You can see everything from start to finish on the video.

Of course there’s more to the story, unless you were there, you don’t know what was happening outside of the camera view.

pigeon or not, its finger-lickin’ good!

I was up at 3am then (guess why?), and saw Nightline bring a live report about the miners being saved.  Actually, I came in the middle of it, and thought it was an old video of the PA rescue.  A couple was standing there saying that they got a call and rushed over, but couldn’t see the individuals because they needed to be checked.  Nothing specific was being said.  I wondered: is this real?  Could they be dead and they don’t want to break the horrible news?  I was informed the next day that they only found 1 alive, in critical condition.  What is his status?

I hardly think the situation is laughable.  They were intending to give great news about a near disaster, that in actuality turned out to be false.  I would shame them if they rushed HORRIBLE news, which seems to be the standard for most news these days.