Shore batteries

@KraytKing However Oil stocks are a must for any ww2 game. Their must be a cost for attacks ( each attack costs 1/2 IPC) plus certain areas of the map produce oil X each turn, that’s easily modeled

@crockett36

Yeah, that’s what I meant. I apologize for being unclear.

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@crockett36 I will post my 2nd Russian turn tonight or tomorrow morning.

If you want the shorebombardment rule to be accurate, you should think about what role it played historically.

In WW2, most divisions had an artillery component. If you count the number of light, medium and heavy guns in divisions, you quickly discover there where ALOT of guns, and the armies used a lot of resources to have them there. Artillery where extremely important. When an inf attacks at 1 and defends at 2, that unit has alot of artillery as a part of the piece. Otherwise it would attack on 1 for each 3 units or something.  In essence, artillery is important.

When you have a regular battle, you deploy some artillery at the front, and some on the sides, and some in the back. What is deployed where is dependent on the type of artillery and the type of terrain. When you do an amphibious invasion, you can deploy none of your artillery. You can have some marine landing vehicles with some small caliber guns and perhaps a few amphibious tanks.  This is how the ships guns where used, they where used as a replacement for artillery.

Therefor, If I where to try to make an accurate Shore Bombardment rule, I wouls make it so that, in the first round, you could only attack with 8 units per supporting BB, 4 units per supporting CR and 1 unit per supporting DD

@toblerone77:

@knp7765:

I think destroyers should be able to bombard @ 2. In fact, I think all surface warships should have that ability.
The only thing that worries me is if destroyers can bombard @ 2 plus their ASW abilities and cheap price, that will start a new wave of people saying “Cruisers aren’t worth buying”.

Well FWIW I don’t mind adding some firepower especially if everyone can do it. I’m working with using the bunkers from HBG to have major and minor bunker complexes that soak hits even on islands. It really just depends on how far you want to diverge from OOB rules and what other units are going to come in to play.

A simple rule could be that all surface warships no matter their type boost +1 on a 1:1 ratio with land units for one round, and tweak it to your liking from there.Â

Interesting extrapolation.
It could be used by cruiser and BB in addition to their basic bombardment.
We can even consider more boosting power toward BB.
Cool. :-)

:lol: I’ve got this great idea for a new unit! Tell me what you think of it! :D

Shore-to-Ship Guns
Movement: 0
Attack Factor: 2
Defense Factor: 0/2
Cost: 15 IPCs

They would basically be like forts with guns like those bases in Hawaii that were built during WWII. They could be placed anywhere that you have one of your own inf. units to build it. The inf. could not be used for anything else that round, though. When faced with an amphibious assault they get to return fire for the bombardement. Otherwise they defend @ zero! zip! nada! When there are ships in an adjoining seazone, they can attack those, but only one round of combat unless there are friendly ships in the same zone. If all friendly ships are destroyed, then combat ends. At the end of a land battle, if only the fort remains, it is taken over by the enemy. A fort can be destroyed, though it takes two hits. :D

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I’m trying to make it good enough that my friend will agree to play with the new unit , so if you have any advice, please post it. 8)