L22 Playoff final trulpen (X) vs axis-dominion (A+23) BM4

@nikola1975 said in L25 PtV Simon33 (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis + 13):

@simon33 Yes, let’s see what we can make out of it. Haven’t played it in a long time; forgot about Manila scramble.

A small chance of keeping the plane alive.

@crockett36 This is the video about how to download for forum play.

@simon33

well, I read the game notes and there is a specific note about vichy france.

Fly-over restrictions applicable to other Neutral territories do not apply to Vichy French territory.

Unless I am missing something, Germany should have been able to fly over southern france. I do not see anywhere that just a US attacking SF, removes that restriction. It looks like a bug in the program unless there is a FAQ I am not aware of.

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 10 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima Combat - ANZAC Battle in Iwo Jima Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs Combat Move - French 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 5 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 5 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 bomber moved from Southern Persia to Burma Combat - Americans Americans creates battle in territory 7 Sea Zone Battle in Guam Battle in Burma Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway 6 carriers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 fighter moved from Southern Persia to Eastern Sinkiang 1 carrier moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 2 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Guiana to 90 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 battleship moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Baluchistan to 82 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 4 carriers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to Greece 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 marine moved from Albania to Greece 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 tactical_bombers moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 4 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 7 Sea Zone to Midway 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to Midway 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 3 destroyers and 5 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 31 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries placed in Greece 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 7. 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2 Americans collect 63 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 63 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Northern Sinkiang to Eastern Sinkiang Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Eastern Sinkiang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 3 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Non Combat Move - British 11 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern India to Burma 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern India to Burma 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Western India 1 cruiser moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria 6 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Albania to Greece 1 artillery moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Baluchistan 2 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Greece 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to Eastern India 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Persia to Iraq Place Units - British 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Persia 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 122 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,2,2,3,1,1,2,3,5,4,2,4,3 British collect 34 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 34 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 53 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 27 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.83 Japanese regular : -0.33

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Delayed response but a few things I will add:

I completely disagree with Adam514’s attack on Normandy G2. What did the Axis get from this attack? Only 4IPC to Germany and the axis lost a lot of units defending it UK3. I can’t imagine I will be dissuaded from this point either. Normally, the only time I would recommend an attack on Normandy is when there is a sea lion. I actually also disagree the Italians taking it which allowed the ownership to go to USA rather than UK. Just because I disagree with Adam doesn’t mean I’m wrong. 101 attack has an expected value of +6.5TUV so on paper it is worthwhile. Biggest problem that I have with this calculation is that it ignores the effect of stripping subs from 110/111. To me, the main benefit of the US1 Brazil landing is getting the infantry sooner. To do what? I’m not sure, I don’t use this move. One game I played against Axis-Dominion he landed USA on Morocco for the +5 bonus US1. Skipping the Yunnan attack for the SZ37 attack, I’m not a fan of. I’m not a fan of the SZ37 attack straight up because it trades a Japanese Cruiser (at a minimum) for the UK BB and the UK BB can’t participate in a US attack on the Japanese fleet, to put it simply. Without the Yunnan inf bid I prefer to leave an inf in Kwangsi so the Allies can’t stop land units from reaching Yunnan J2 but that is just my preference. India fell J4 which means it was a naval take down. This did require 30IPC in facilities but then Adam also saved an mIC vs what I normally do, which I expect to take India mostly overland J5. Getting it 1 turn earlier meant another 8IPC and maybe he also saved UK from getting 2-3 more inf. Still, I used to do it a fair bit but now I’m not convinced it’s a good trade.

@farmboy said in L25 BM4 Playoffs Adam514 (Axis) vs farmboy (Allies+18):

This is the third time I’ve beaten Adam’s Axis. But its the first time I’ve won where I feel that the dice didn’t do most of the work for me.

Hmm, was a few years ago I went looking for a time Adam had gone down as Axis, didn’t find any. Were these games relatively recently or did I just miss one?

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 armour, 1 bomber and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Caucasus Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov 3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 5 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 2,33 Russians regular : -0,67

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@surfer This might be the craziest board state I’ve ever been a part of