L21 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs malmessi74 (A) P2V

Casualties in S Fr?

I believe the aa and one french inf is the most rational choice, saving the british inf for last.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.2.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 transport; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Politics - Italians
        Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
            Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
              Italians take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
              Italians take Kenya from British
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
        Battle in 95 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 transport; French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the French, 1 transport owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the French and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 95 Sea Zone
            Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British, taking 95 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
            Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in Alexandria
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria
            Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern France
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
            Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
        1 fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Albania to Slovakia Hungary
        2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 transport placed in 99 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
        Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 19 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0,50
Italians regular : 1,17
British regular : 0,67

Savegame

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.2.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 transport; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Politics - Italians
        Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
            Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
              Italians take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
              Italians take Kenya from British
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
        Battle in 95 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 transport; French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the French, 1 transport owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the French and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 95 Sea Zone
            Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British, taking 95 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
            Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in Alexandria
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria
            Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern France
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
            Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
        1 fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Albania to Slovakia Hungary
        2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 transport placed in 99 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
        Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 19 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Slovakia Hungary: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Romania: 1 armour
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0,50
Italians regular : 1,17
British regular : 0,67

Savegame

Put the tank in Romania instead.

@malmessi74 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs malmessi74 (A) P2V:

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs malmessi74 (A) P2V:

Put the tank in Romania instead.

Posted my map thean read…

I trust the change was ok though? Don’t think it’s impacted by Franz anyway.

If not, we can just change back.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.2.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
        5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Greece
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Greece
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Greece, round 2 : 8/12 hits, 4,67 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece
            Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Alexandria
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Albania
        1 bomber moved from Greece to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 99 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Albania
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        2 submarines moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        5 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
        5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        2 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Germans
        1 factory_minor placed in Yugoslavia
        1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        6 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Germany
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 destroyer placed in 116 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Neutral_Allies regular : 0,67
Germans regular : 3,33

Savegame

No, I believe an early SL is even more suicide on this map considering the ruskijs.

@malmessi74 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs malmessi74 (A) P2V:

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs malmessi74 (A) P2V:

No, I believe an early SL is even more suicide on this map considering the ruskijs.

If Uk play a wrong purchase in turn1 it is more than possible.
Probably you are talking about the consequances on the (almost german-empty) russian front and on Usa entering the war at turn3 but it is possible… do you agree ?

It’s possible, but only if G doesn’t have to invest a lot in it. Russia will also get into the war and will likely get insanely mighty.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.2.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 3 infantry, 2 marines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia
              Japanese take Inner Mongolia from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan
              Japanese take Honan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan
              Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 5,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Kiangsi
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Paulau to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to 43 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 artillery moved from Shansi to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 fighter moved from Jehol to Caroline Islands
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone
        2 marines placed in Japan
        3 infantry placed in Shantung

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,33
Japanese regular : -0,33

Savegame

@malmessi74 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs malmessi74 (A) P2V:

@trulpen I see JAP is well prepared to enter the war and take a lot of islands

That’s the plan atleast.