@mike64 sounds good I’ll take a look tomorrow
Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+23) BM3
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Just my $0.02. For $20, I would put 1 ftr in Scotland (defends fleet), a sub in SZ 96 (for Taranto), 1 inf in NG, and $1 to India. I’ve never played with the rule to allow NG placement, but I can see the advantage.
The only concern will be that this bid is against a typical opponent, i.e., Germans focused on Russia. And since this is a learning game perhaps that is just as good as can be made.
However, just for the record, @trulpen has a preference for a large German fleet to prevent any Western beach head plus if allowed to grow unchecked, will dominate the Med and prevent US build ups.
To counter that strategy, the Allies have three goals: a) save as much of the British fleet Turn 1 as possible to allow them to unite with the US, b) build the US navy in the Atlantic to force a naval arms race, and c) play somewhat loosely with the Russians because the Germans will not be able to spend as much on Barbarosa.
Saving the fleet means 1 ftr in Scotland a must bid
I’m not sure how to spend the remaining 10.Taranto is a good (but not great) counter, because the aircraft that leave London, coupled with the German naval buy, make Sea Lion a possibility. Most people would say that early sea lion is a loser, but @trulpen is too crafty for that. He will simply threaten sea lion and continue to build. The result is that the UK continually has to defend London and cannot focus on the Middle East.
I think I would support a Gibbastion like move UK1 so that the Allies have naval superiority in the Atlantic. The concern is that the BM3/4 + Vichy can make Italy a real threat early in the game. If they threaten Egypt, then Gibbastion is not so good.
Thus, I would add 2 units to support Egypt. I would add 3, but 1 inf in NG is so yummy that hard to turn down. -
@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
Bombers cost 14. Inf on NG is allowed.
Sorry for my stupid question, what is NG ? Suppose it is not NewGuinea…
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@malmessi74 said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
Bombers cost 14. Inf on NG is allowed.
Sorry for my stupid question, what is NG ? Suppose it is not NewGuinea…
It is New Guinea.
The thing is that ANZAC does not have any units there, so it would be an exception from the default rules. If players are in agreement though, it’s not against the rules.
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@trulpen
If possible, a more stupid question, why 1 inf in NG ?
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@trulpen
To take D.N.G. in ANZ1 without using the trasp ? -
@surfer said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
However, just for the record, @trulpen has a preference for a large German fleet to prevent any Western beach head plus if allowed to grow unchecked, will dominate the Med and prevent US build ups.
A wise maxime by Sun Tzu, know your opponent. :)
Most people would say that early sea lion is a loser, but @trulpen is too crafty for that. He will simply threaten sea lion and continue to build. The result is that the UK continually has to defend London and cannot focus on the Middle East.
I say an early SL is a loser. However, I always try to keep an open mind and hypothetically an early SL that’s extremely cheap would probably be a winner.
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@malmessi74 said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
@trulpen
To take D.N.G. in ANZ1 without using the trasp ?Basically it does save the aussies a tr, so the 3 IPC can actually be considered as 10 IPC.
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@trulpen
But this is to get a +3ipc bonus, just when JAP is at war with ANZ.
Is it possible to take D.N.G in Anz1 by trasp hoping JAP not declaring war to ANZ in JAP2 (in order to move back trasp saving it in ANZ turn2) ? -
@malmessi74 said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
@trulpen
But this is to get a +3ipc bonus, just when JAP is at war with ANZ.
Is it possible to take D.N.G in Anz1 by trasp hoping JAP not declaring war to ANZ in JAP2 (in order to move back trasp saving it in ANZ turn2) ?The problem is then that ANZAC won’t take Java. That’s -4 IPC for the next turn. For that reason I’d choose Java before DNG during A1 any day of the week. Unless, of course, there’s been a JDOW1.
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@oysteilo said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
For BM at 20:
french inf to normandy (makes vichy more complicated)
Is it possible to place 1 british inf in Marseille (S.FRA) if opponent agrees ? Like for N.G. ? This makes Vichy impossible, not just complicated
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@malmessi74 said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
@oysteilo said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
For BM at 20:
french inf to normandy (makes vichy more complicated)
Is it possible to place 1 british inf in Marseille (S.FRA) if opponent agrees ? Like for N.G. ? This makes Vichy impossible, not just complicated
Not necessary. Just put a french inf there instead. I would not allow 1 french inf and 1 british inf to be placed in the same territory.
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Sorry, I missed your point. No, I wouldn’t allow it.
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If the brits want to put units in S Fr, then they’ll have to use the tr in z98. That move shouldn’t be for free.
Besides, a Vichy would not be impossible, since it’s possible to air-strike S Fr.
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@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
Sorry, I missed your point. No, I wouldn’t allow it.
I use to spend a brit trasp in order to move inf+aa from MALTA to S.FRA to prevent Vichy, a new brit inf as a bid in S.FRA is very nice…
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@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
If the brits want to put units in S Fr, then they’ll have to use the tr in z98. That move shouldn’t be for free.
Same concept at the same time :blush:
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@malmessi74 said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
a new brit inf as a bid in S.FRA is very nice…
I agree, but unfortunately too nice. ;)
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@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
Besides, a Vichy would not be impossible, since it’s possible to air-strike S Fr.
But if I have a brit inf in S.FRA and keep it as last casualt. Vichy is impossible, am I right ?
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@malmessi74 said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
Besides, a Vichy would not be impossible, since it’s possible to air-strike S Fr.
But if I have a brit inf in S.FRA and keep it as last casualt. Vichy is impossible, am I right ?
Not if it’s only air left attacking.
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Or the last attacking land-unit dies.
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@trulpen said in Tutor game: trulpen (X) vs Avner [and everyone else] (A+20) BM3:
@trulpen
The problem is then that ANZAC won’t take Java. That’s -4 IPC for the next turn. For that reason I’d choose Java before DNG during A1 any day of the week. Unless, of course, there’s been a JDOW1.Still think a chinese inf in YUNN is better (JAP will hate this move)
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