L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies)

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.2.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 armour moved from French Central Africa to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Northern Caucasus
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northeast Persia
              Italians take Northeast Persia from British
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northeast Persia to Turkmenistan
              Italians take Turkmenistan from Russians
        5 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
        4 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 82 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 82 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@malmessi74 said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

@flyingbadger

No, the TUV of the involved units was not ok,
no IC and no airfield/harbour for you but I preferred to stay in YUNN… maybe next time :wink:

Yeah, probably should defend it as I have spent a lot building those facilities.

Scramble to Normandy?

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.2.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 armour moved from French Central Africa to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Northern Caucasus
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northeast Persia
              Italians take Northeast Persia from British
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northeast Persia to Turkmenistan
              Italians take Turkmenistan from Russians
        5 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
        4 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 82 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 82 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians
        British scrambles 2 units out of 113 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Normandy Bordeaux
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            British defend with 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 fighters in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Italians win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 fighters and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan

    Place Units - Italians
        1 factory_minor placed in Southern Persia
        1 tactical_bomber placed in Southern Italy
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Iraq
        3 infantry placed in Egypt
        2 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 108 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,2,1
        Italians collect 32 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 51 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.50
British regular : -0.67

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@malmessi74 said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

@malmessi74 said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

@flyingbadger

I will win saving 1.7 units so I’ll say YES
Now we’ll see if this .7 means no loss of fig :blush: or not :disappointed:
The survived fig/figs come back to AC

The 1.7 surviving units is what you get if you simulate and (stupidly) consider 2 italian inf only, not the third !!!
Dunno why I simulated with 2 inf, usually I click CTRL+B on the battle and then manually add scrambling fig; how could I be able to miss 1 italian inf it’s a mistery…

I hadn’t done the math on that attack so didn’t know what the numbers should have been, just seemed like it would be expensive for you defend. I felt bad for you with that result, losing 2 fighters and the territory. What I will say is that you are really hammering the Germans and Japanese in this and both are struggling to just hold the line, but you are letting the Italians create a large empire, are you (sub)consiously avoiding Italian casualties? :thinking_face: :flag-it:

@malmessi74 said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

@malmessi74 said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

@flyingbadger

Guess what I am gonna say ?

You were very lucky and I had bad luck
Italians regular : 0.50
British regular : -0.67

but the battle was almost impossible to win and I wrote
“I will win saving 1.7 units so I’ll say YES”
cause I am a stupid and stupid mistakes must be paid, game over.
I know that “you are really hammering the Germans and Japanese in this and both are struggling to just hold the line”
but I cannot accept stupid mistakes from me…
Never scrambled in a battle with 19% to win and especially where I have almost the double ot TUV to loose… Like I said i last turn the capture of FIC was possible but TUV count suggested me to give up, then I scrambled in a “useless waste of TUV” in the same turn :angry:

Just reloaded the post-Japanese save and tried to look at the battle calculator for attacking FIC and the Chinese units aren’t allowed into FIC, guess because it is not an originally Chinese territory but a French one. This leaves only the Brits to attack on there own and the battle calculator says 0% (even without the Japanese carrier scramble). So I wouldn’t worry about that as a missed opportunity. Just sitting on Yunnan is enough of a killer to the Japs, can’t leave them there ungaurded but can’t shift 50+ defending units either, also can keep on grabbing Szechwan for the bonus.

@malmessi74 said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

@flyingbadger said in L21 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis) vs malmessi74 (Allies):

Yunnan is enough of a killer to the Japs, can’t leave them there ungaurded but can’t shift 50+ defending units either, also can keep on grabbing Szechwan for the bonus.

I think an airfield in KWA during Jap1 purchase is an expansive but very good option, so CHI cannot take YUNN back in CHI1 and this is the beginning of the end for allies who planned to join armies in YUNN :blush:

Yeah, I think you are right, Japan doesn’t have the infantry in place to keep hold of Yunnan but an airbase would with the potential to scramble would be tricky for China. I think CDS did this in my first ever game of PtV.