NML 1914 - Team Game #1

@fmerwinrommel : Few things before I reply.

Witt and redrum are arguably two of the better players here. Between these two and some blunders made by entente we were able to pull a victory after a long and tedious struggle.

Witt always said that Centrals need a bid to stand a chance against a well played Entente.

Proposition: a Central Player (but not Redrum nor me) receives a small bonus to his Forces in some kind, to level the playing field - looking at AeV and Entek, who are both fairly new to this mod.

What do you think?

@elrood I prefer not to give a bid to the last choosing CP player. In a 1-on-1 or 2-on-2 game, it might be fine to give a less experienced or skilled player a bid to play CP. But in an 8-player team game, individual levels of experience or skill become a factor in the matchups between opponents. The only Allied position left is Italy/Arab, and it’s likely to go to Entek or AEV, who are fairly new as you say. To give the Turk or Austrian player a bid against Italy/Arabia, makes that last Allied position even more hopeless than it is already. Austria has a secure, rich, home base with big ICs. Commies usually seriously hurt Russia. Turkey has weaknesses and Germ can be ganged up on and contained, but not be easily conquered; but give them a starting advantage, and it upsets the balance to their neighbors.

@fmerwinrommel I see your points, but the main issue is, that the game is not balanced. (in Witts and my Opinion)

Everyone chose Entente (Allies) so far, as you yourself noted. You do not see that in G40 for instance, where it is widely accepted that Axis have the Edge in a OOB game setup.

I simply fear that the weakest player is just wiped out and then we can likely give up.
On the other hand, if an Entente Player gets crippled is of no big consequence.

But a Central Player who only goes for defense only early on puts a clock on any chance Centrals have on victory.

Entente win the game when Centrals cannot advance any further, so a stalemate helps them - Centrals need to overcome the ridiculous cheap defenses of the game to make progress.

@elrood You and Redrum are very good players and most certainly will choose CP. With some guidance to the third CP player, CP can still be competitive, even though the Allies (particularly me) aren’t likely to mess up the opening and early game as bad as the first game. I intend to redeem myself, which is why I chose France again, aside from the element of dice luck. I will accept what the majority decide.

@fmerwinrommel ok then. I choose Turks (and Commies, I presume?)

@redrum said in NML 1914 - Team Game #1:

So is this when I’m supposed to choose Italy? :)

you so funny… ;-)

@redrum well put!
Thanks!

I see that additional land units can wreck the early game too profoundly

What if Centrals get some Naval units or Techs instead.

I am easy re bids. Although I think @Elrood and @redrum are the best players here and them being on opposing sides is far more likely to balance the game than anything else we might do.

Them and @witt teaming up in the last game made it an impossible challenge for the allies, but no-one worried about trying to balance the game. We just got on with it.

But just happy to play however the majority wish to organise it. I play for fun and don’t care so much about winning or losing.

@private-panic we should try a game some time where we pick captains and they roll to see who picks first and they choose the teams.

@dawgoneit or even roll and the 2 highest are captains.

@Private-Panic Elrood and Redrum are on the same side, or were you just suggesting that putting them on separate sides would balance it out?

@dawgoneit Sounds like a plan for our 3rd game

@fmerwinrommel just an idea.

@redrum said in NML 1914 - Team Game #1:

@private-panic Finally admitting that I’m one of the best after all these years… never thought I’d see the day

I might pay ypu another complement next decade @redrum, so you’ll have to make do with this one for now!

I’ll go Italy and Arabs.