L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 18

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

Game History

Round: 18

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 11 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Egypt
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 82 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Egypt
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 82 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 battleship moved from 82 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
              Americans take French Equatorial Africa from Germans
        1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        3 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Japanese scrambles 3 units out of 83 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Egypt
        Battle in 78 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 3 submarines; ANZAC loiter and taunt
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 78 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 78 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 78 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Egypt
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Japanese roll AA dice in Egypt : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Egypt, round 2 : 8/12 hits, 4,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese, 2 armour owned by the Japanese, 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese, 3 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Egypt
            Americans win, taking Egypt from Japanese with 1 armour, 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 41
            Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 78 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Malta
        2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Malta
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 93 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone
        4 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        4 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        4 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 4 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to 5 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
        2 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
        3 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
        6 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 93 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

    Place Units - Americans
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States
        3 artilleries placed in Kyushu
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Korea
        1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Central United States
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 72 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 87 PUs
        Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
        Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 102 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 107 PUs
        Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 112 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
        Chinese buy 6 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        4 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        2 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Western Sinkiang to Northern Sinkiang
        1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
        1 artillery moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
        9 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hopei
        9 artilleries and 22 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria
        6 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Saratov to Tambov
        1 fighter moved from Stalingrad to Tambov
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Tambov
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        2 fighters moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to 83 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to 83 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Morocco
        EDIT: 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

    Combat - British
        Battle in Tambov
            British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Tambov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Tambov
            British win, taking Tambov from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
        Battle in Yaroslavl
            British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery
                British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yaroslavl
            British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
        Battle in 83 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 4 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3,17 expected hits
            Units damaged: 3 carriers owned by the Japanese
                Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 4 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 83 Sea Zone
            3 submarines owned by the Japanese submerged
                British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 4 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the British, 3 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 83 Sea Zone
            2 fighters owned by the British retreated
            Japanese win with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 carriers

    Non Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 fighters moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus
        2 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia
        8 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern India to Baluchistan
        2 fighters moved from Eastern India to Iraq
        2 fighters moved from Tambov to Stalingrad
        3 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Stalingrad
        1 aaGun moved from Samara to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Urals
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Komi
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Penza to Russia
        2 fighters moved from Yaroslavl to Russia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Urals
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kirov to Komi
        1 submarine moved from 73 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        4 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: carrier = 0
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 23 PUs; end with 27 PUs
        Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 3,17
Japanese regular : 1,50
Japanese AA : -0,50
Germans regular : 0,33
British regular : 1,33

Savegame

Double-post.

I’m pretty sure that the ac should’ve been repaired, but I’ll try to find out.

“Your capital ships (carriers and battleships) in sea zones
serviced by operative friendly naval bases (including those
repaired in this turn) are also repaired at this time. There is
no IPC cost to repair these ships.” (p 12)

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 18

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

Game History

Round: 18

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya
        2 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya
        1 marine moved from Iraq to 82 Sea Zone
        1 marine and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 74 Sea Zone to Tanganyika Territory
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 78 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Tanganyika Territory
        Battle in 83 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                ANZAC roll dice for 2 submarines in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the ANZAC lost in 83 Sea Zone
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 83 Sea Zone
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 83 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 transports in 83 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 83 Sea Zone
                2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 83 Sea Zone
            ANZAC win, taking Tanganyika Territory from Japanese with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 50
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
        Battle in Kenya
            ANZAC attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kenya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Kenya
            ANZAC win, taking Kenya from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Buryatia from Japanese to Russians
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 submarines moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
        1 fighter moved from 83 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 fighter placed in Queensland
        1 destroyer placed in 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 24 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0,67
ANZAC regular : 1,67

Savegame

@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

I think the small window to a win has closed. Would you mind giving me some pointers?

Does this mean you resign and want some strategic analysis?

@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

@trulpen yes it does, unless you think i still have a reasonable chance at getting two Victoria Cities

I agree, it looks more or less impossible to gain 2 VCs without losing any somewhere else. It’s 2-3 turns before another Moscow crush can be attempted and the Allies are coming on strong from all sides.

I’ll try to look at the game now.

You took down Moscow G5. That’s very early. Kind of took me by surprise there. The conquest of UK-EU was also strong, but more or less a slip by me and good dice (especially when sinking the USN).

At that point it was very close to an Axis win, since you had 8 VCs for half a round. Allies managed to hang on by a thread, but then got rolling.

You had problems with Japan, mainly not being able to control Yunnan and chase away the chinese. When UK-Pac felt relieved there came a lot of pressure from them as well. This seriously impacted income.

Somehow I managed to gain fleet superiority in the Pac and the JN eventually went west to pursue a venture of taking down Cairo. After that J was lost. Perhaps greater focus to match fleet mobilization was needed?

Germany was very strong, but after the intrusion into Caucasus and the thin lines behind the stronghold the position crumbled and Russia could be liberated.

The game gives a lot of errors when looking at history, so I can’t make any deeper detailed analysis than ad memoriam.

@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

1. what I remember about Russia is that in favor of reinforcing Moscow you put significant forces on the flanks.

Yes, wanted to pressure Germany, but it was simply bad play on my part. You did well to take advantage of it.

2. do you remember any significant strategic blunders?

Maybe Yunnan then, but I was doing big efforts of making it difficult and costly.

3. were there times that you remember where you felt relieved that I didn’t exploit a certain situation?

Can’t say I do. You took both Moscow and London, which both were heavy setbacks for the Allies. I would have to be able to look at the game more closely in order to find out more about it.

@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

@max334 I also gave up China as I saw the US was adopting a Kill Japan first strategy and so I needed the money for sea power

That’s a problem for J, to get enough land-units into Asia. Maybe even more effort was needed to subdue China, especially since that conquest also funds the needed fleet mobilization.

Eventually J’s economy inflated and then collapsed. As you point out, it’s necessary to be able to contest the ocean.

Btw, just a formality, but would you like to report the result in the post results thread?