L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    @trulpen sorry man…you did not roll well

    lol, 14 difference makes quite an impact.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @trulpen what is ‘14 difference’


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    @max334 how do you read this? I mean know its not good for the Allies
    Americans regular : -6.83
    Germans regular : 8.17
    British regular : -0.33

    It means hits in relation to the average probability. A 0.00 is exactly the “expected number of hits”. An inf has 1/3 to hit, hence the british got -0.33. If it had hit it would be 0.67 instead.

    So Germany got 8 more hits than expected and US got almost 7 less hits. It’s a landslide.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 14

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Combat Move - Russians
    
        Combat - Russians
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Ulaanbaatar
            1 aaGun and 7 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • And a TUV-swing of 187 is straight out evil. Especially in a 50/60-battle.

    And sneaky aussie no more.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @trulpen Not sure I’ve seen such a huge TUV loss before. I used to cry if I sustained anything above 50. And they didn’t even list ANZAC on the Combat Hit Differential


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    @trulpen Not sure I’ve seen such a huge TUV loss before. I used to cry if I sustained anything above 50. And they didn’t even list ANZAC on the Combat Hit Differential

    ANZAC was included, but as american guest star. It only shows one nation per battle, so everything in the sz was considered american for the CHD.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    that was a bad battle… -74

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 14

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Siam
                  Japanese take Siam from UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia
                  Japanese take Central Mongolia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Komi to Northern Caucasus
            1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Japanese creates battle in territory 7 Sea Zone
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in Northern Caucasus
                Japanese attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                    British roll AA dice in Northern Caucasus : 2/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Caucasus
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 6/13 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 13/18 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese, 4 artilleries owned by the Japanese, 1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the Japanese, 2 armour owned by the Japanese and 5 infantry owned by the British lost in Northern Caucasus
                British win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -74
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 5 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Komi
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 38 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Malaya
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Stalingrad
            Japanese undo move 1.
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Stalingrad
            1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in French Indo China
            1 bomber placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4
            Japanese collect 43 PUs; end with 46 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Japanese regular : 0.67
    British AA : 1.50
    British regular : 5.33
    

    Savegame


  • Compensates somewhat for the fleet debacle. Such are the dice. Wouldn’t go LL anyway.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            4 units repaired.
            1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from British Columbia to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Aleutian Islands to 9 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Iwo Jima to 18 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 submarine moved from 107 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Scotland to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Davao
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to Davao
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to Tunisia
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • Scramble to z112?

    Thinking of our previous discussions, I’m not sure I should assume anything. However, with the late hour, I will assume no scramble. Re-doing if I had it wrong. Can wait a few minutes though, just in case you’re online.


  • @trulpen said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    Scramble to z112?

    Thinking of our previous discussions, I’m not sure I should assume anything. However, with the late hour, I will assume no scramble. Re-doing if I had it wrong. Can wait a few minutes though, just in case you’re online.

    Nah, I’ll wait for your decision before executing that battle.

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @trulpen thank you, scramble 2 pls

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    @max334 the reason I’m scrambling is because your ftrs are more valuable to you then mine are to me. Might not be the best logic

  • 2024 '22 '21 '19 '18

    …and the Jap attack was only supposed to be a one round strafing. Cant believe you left not a single man to retreat


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            4 units repaired.
            1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from British Columbia to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Aleutian Islands to 9 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Iwo Jima to 18 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 submarine moved from 107 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Scotland to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Davao
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to Davao
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to Tunisia
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Soviet Far East
            Battle in Siberia
            Battle in Davao
                Americans attack with 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 1 harbour
                    Americans roll dice for 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Davao, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Davao, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Davao
                Americans win, taking Soviet Far East from Japanese, taking Siberia from Japanese with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
            Battle in Tunisia
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 marine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 marine in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 marine owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Tunisia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 4 : 3/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Tunisia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                Americans win, taking Tunisia from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 marine
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0,67
    Japanese regular : 0,67
    Germans regular : -0,33
    

    Savegame


  • @max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:

    @max334 the reason I’m scrambling is because your ftrs are more valuable to you then mine are to me. Might not be the best logic

    Ok, does make some sense.

    I post the previous battles and restart from the CM, since I chose no scramble by default.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            4 units repaired.
            1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from British Columbia to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Aleutian Islands to 9 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Iwo Jima to 18 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 submarine moved from 107 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Scotland to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Davao
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to Davao
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to Tunisia
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 2 units out of 113 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in Soviet Far East
            Battle in Siberia
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans, 1 submarine owned by the Americans, 2 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Soviet Far East from Japanese, taking Siberia from Japanese, taking 112 Sea Zone from Germans with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 33
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 1,17
    Germans regular : 0,00
    

    Savegame


  • I forgot to withdraw from the other battles. I’ll roll them again, but will edit differing casualties.

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