Hmm, might not have been worth declaring war on Japan to save the Chinese troops for a round.
L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V
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I dont see you. Whats your name in the lobby
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talk to me. Is it the DD edit?
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@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
talk to me. Is it the DD edit?
Sorry, have been occupied for a few hours now.
No worries. It could’ve been a gamble to scramble, but I think that even with that 50 % I would’ve chosen to keep the figs to defend the land. If the amphi pushed through, it would be the end otherwise. So it’s all good.
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@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
Ouch, this maybe why this wasn’t the best. The file has no PBF-info now. I’ll see if I can make it work.
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Ok, seems to work. No biggie then.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 9 Politics - Russians Combat Move - Russians 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 4 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria Combat - Russians Battle in Southern Manchuria Russians attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria Russians win, taking Southern Manchuria from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Battle in Northern Manchuria Russians attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Russians win, taking Northern Manchuria from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Central Mongolia Russians attack with 8 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 8 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 1,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Central Mongolia Russians roll dice for 6 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Central Mongolia Russians win, taking Central Mongolia from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 aaGun moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Turn Complete - RussiansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 2,67 Russians regular : -1,17 -
I see I’ve forgotten to move away the aussie-fig from Hawaii. I’ll correct that, and if you deny it, just use the this previous save.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 9 Politics - Russians Combat Move - Russians 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 4 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria Combat - Russians Battle in Southern Manchuria Russians attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria Russians win, taking Southern Manchuria from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Battle in Northern Manchuria Russians attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Russians win, taking Northern Manchuria from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Central Mongolia Russians attack with 8 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 8 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 1,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Central Mongolia Russians roll dice for 6 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Central Mongolia Russians win, taking Central Mongolia from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 aaGun moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Turn Complete - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Hawaiian Islands: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 55 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 2,67 Russians regular : -1,17 -
Fig from Hawaii to z55.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 9 Politics - Russians Combat Move - Russians 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 4 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria Combat - Russians Battle in Southern Manchuria Russians attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria Russians win, taking Southern Manchuria from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Battle in Northern Manchuria Russians attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Russians win, taking Northern Manchuria from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Central Mongolia Russians attack with 8 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 8 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 1,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Central Mongolia Russians roll dice for 6 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Central Mongolia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Central Mongolia Russians win, taking Central Mongolia from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Southern Manchuria 1 aaGun moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Northern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Turn Complete - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Hawaiian Islands: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 55 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 55 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Western United States: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 2,67 Russians regular : -1,17 -
Nah, reconsidered. Think it might be better placed in San Fransisco, anticipating the japanese onslaught.
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@trulpen I would not make an issue of the Hawaii ftr because I would not have a reasonable reason to do so. You concerned me a little with your balking about my German DD move, because it reminds me of your denial of the German Air I forgot to move up from Rome to participate in Sea Lion.
Yes you could have scrambled, but even a brand new Axis & Allies player would not do so as you did not have 50% odds, you had like next to 0% odds. And thats not to mention the desperate need for those ftrs in defense of London as your French Infantry can surely attest to.
I think we can have a good game and I acknowlege that you are a more superior player than I and that my only real hope for victory is maybe a little strategy combined with a lot of dice luck. And yes, I have been lucky with the dice excluding Sea Lion, Egypt and maybe a few other battles. So thank you and I’m fine with things as they stand. I will now attempt to create a little diversion with the Japanese forces -
Thank you! I agree, after considering it a possible scramble wasn’t really an issue. Although I calculated it to be 50 % without the des, but perhaps I miscalculated or missed something.
It was not my intention to complain. It was more of a revelation or observation. Also perhaps a benifit of PBF, when there is more time and space for the mind.
London was clearly a higher priority for me. Mainly was considering that denying the amphi would be a full secure protection. The attempt to deny it would be rather fishy though.
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I think you’ve handled the game very well so far, except perhaps the over-sight of not moving the 2 german air from Rome (I would’ve allowed the edit, if it weren’t for the impact on the position).
You took Moscow by surprise. Probably sloppy of me, but you surely managed to whip up a lot of pressure quickly. London should perhaps have met the same destiny.
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Oh, one more thing. I think your Japan needs a bit more love, although admittedly I made a lot of effort to make things dire in China.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha Japanese take Sakha from Russians 1 infantry moved from Korea to Amur 1 mech_infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Timguska 1 infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Urals 1 infantry moved from Western Sinkiang to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus 1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Uzbekistan Japanese take Uzbekistan from Russians 1 armour moved from Uzbekistan to Kazakhstan 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to 4 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 4 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska 1 carrier moved from 7 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 25 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Johnston Island 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Wake Island to 24 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 24 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 2 fighters moved from 24 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 carrier moved from 24 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 24 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to Midway 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Midway Combat - Japanese Battle in Alaska Battle in Johnston Island Battle in Hawaiian Islands Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 marine Americans defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll AA dice in Hawaiian Islands : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 marine in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 aaGuns owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 marine in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands Japanese win, taking Alaska from Americans, taking Johnston Island from Americans, taking Hawaiian Islands from Americans with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Americans: 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone Japanese undo move 3. 1 fighter placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone Japanese undo move 2. Japanese undo move 2. 1 fighter placed in Japan 1 carrier placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Stalingrad Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 7 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 2 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@trulpen said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
I think you’ve handled the game very well so far, except perhaps the over-sight of not moving the 2 german air from Rome (I would’ve allowed the edit, if it weren’t for the impact on the position).
I have to reiterate that denying the edit of air was mainly because of the factor of defense they played during UK as well as the pressure needing to position US and UK accordingly, and not the fact of an incoming SL. I hope that is apparent.
Also, more importantly, I hope that you’ve gained some valuable knowledge from the experience regarding des and sub. It’s an easy mistake to make to for instance think that a sub denies activities in a sz, but it doesn’t, while a des does. Subs are great, but may always be ignored if alone.
The des making the sz hostile is a neat trick to pick up from your sleeve from time to time. One exception though and that is if a nation just gets to war that turn.
A good example is Japan and z36. Lets say J has put 4 tr in z36 and put all troops in Kwangsi/FIC. If UK moves in a des there, J may still load all tr’s if J is allowed to DOW. However, if ANZAC DOW’s first, the tr’s will be unable to load to z36 and the island expansion is put on halt for a whole turn.
That’s why I always leave 1 inf on each tr in that situation, to be sure to grab islands.
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