5 hits total, OOL?
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L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck
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@martin sub first
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@flyingbadger now, that has been proven to be correct…
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@martin both cruisers next
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@martin destroyer and battleship
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That’s not going to end well…
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@martin Italian fighter
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@martin I had a quick look at the battle calculator earlier and it was in your favour, but not by much, so guess the dice gods were going to have the final say
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans 1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland Combat - Americans Battle in Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 mech_infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Guam to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States 2 destroyers and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Sikang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 4 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone 2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 armour moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece 2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia British take Ethiopia from Italians 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone Combat - British Italians scrambles 3 units out of Greece to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Battle in Western Germany British attack with 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 airfield, 3 bombers, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour British roll dice for 2 fighters in Western Germany, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 bombers in Western Germany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Western Germany British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in Western Germany, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in Western Germany, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in Western Germany British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 9 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 9 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in Western Germany British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Casualties for Germans: 3 bombers Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/0 hits, 4,00 expected hits 2 cruisers owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Italians, 2 submarines owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 2,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/0 hits, 3,00 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 1,17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone 2 transports owned by the British retreated to 98 Sea Zone Italians win with 2 fighters and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -15 Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt Place Units - British 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs Turn Complete - UK_PacificCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0,17 Germans regular : -1,00 British regular : -3,00 -
@flyingbadger yes… I saw a 54% chance in my favour and thought I have to take the risk. Maybe I should be a bit more risk avers when the outcome of a close battle decides on the survival of transporters and freight. In this case, it turned out to be too risky and expensive. Lesson learned
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@martin said in L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck:
@flyingbadger yes… I saw a 54% chance in my favour and thought I have to take the risk. Maybe I should be a bit more risk avers when the outcome of a close battle decides on the survival of transporters and freight. In this case, it turned out to be too risky and expensive. Lesson learned
Well, you can’t be too predictable. Sometimes the potential reward can be worth the risk. Eliminating the Italian fleet and giving yourself a free hand in the Mediterranean is very useful for the Allies.
We can exchange our After Action Reports on conclusion and learn from each other!
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@martin I’ll edit the armour to be unloaded from those transports, did you want them in Egypt?
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@flyingbadger thank you, but do not edit. It is the rules. They were involved in the amphibious assault on Greece and retreated. Unlucky, but that’s the way it is.
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@martin said in L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck:
@flyingbadger thank you, but do not edit. It is the rules. They were involved in the amphibious assault on Greece and retreated. Unlucky, but that’s the way it is.
I suppose it is the old can’t load and unload in different phases rule. However, in this situation I think it is too harsh. I shall put them in Egypt. Monty will be pleased to have them :desert: :rat:
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@flyingbadger that’s very kind, but you should leave them to their destiny. They were involved in combat and then retreated. They should not be able to make a non-combat movement on top…
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 2 armour moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Greece to 98 Sea Zone 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk Combat - Italians Strategic bombing raid in Egypt British roll AA dice in Egypt : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Egypt rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Egypt causes 6 damage total. Battle in 98 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 fighter British defend with 2 transports 2 transports owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone 1 armour owned by the British lost in Egypt 1 armour owned by the British lost in Egypt Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for British: 2 armour and 2 transports Battle in Bryansk Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Italians win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Egypt Italians defend with 1 bomber Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Greece 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Romania to Western Ukraine Place Units - Italians 8 infantry placed in Northern Italy 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Egypt from British to British EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 2 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.17 British AA : -0.17 Russians regular : -0.33 -
@martin said in L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck:
@flyingbadger that’s very kind, but you should leave them to their destiny. They were involved in combat and then retreated. They should not be able to make a non-combat movement on top…
Well I’ve made the edit (took 2 goes at it :confused: ), I’ll leave it up to you whether you keep them or not. Whatever you choose is 100% okay with me.
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@flyingbadger it is funny how we are always fighting for the right of the opponent :-) I will take these tanks away, as I guess you will kill the transports. I hope that battle will not decide the war… But thank you again!
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