L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck


  • @flyingbadger :blush:



  • @martin sub first



  • @flyingbadger now, that has been proven to be correct…


  • @martin both cruisers next



  • @martin destroyer and battleship


  • That’s not going to end well…

    @flyingbadger Casualties.jpg


  • @martin Italian fighter


  • @martin I had a quick look at the battle calculator earlier and it was in your favour, but not by much, so guess the dice gods were going to have the final say

  • 2024 '23 '22 '21

    TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 4

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Americans
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
            1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Gibraltar
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 mech_infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Guam to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            2 destroyers and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Sikang
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 4 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia
                  British take Ethiopia from Italians
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Italians scrambles 3 units out of Greece to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Western Germany
                British attack with 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 3 bombers, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters in Western Germany, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 bombers in Western Germany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Western Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in Western Germany, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in Western Germany, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in Western Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Western Germany, round 9 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 9 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in Western Germany
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Germans: 3 bombers
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/0 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                    2 cruisers owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Italians, 2 submarines owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/0 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                2 transports owned by the British retreated to 98 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 2 fighters and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -15
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
    
        Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Egypt
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0,17
    Germans regular : -1,00
    British regular : -3,00
    

    Savegame


  • @flyingbadger yes… I saw a 54% chance in my favour and thought I have to take the risk. Maybe I should be a bit more risk avers when the outcome of a close battle decides on the survival of transporters and freight. In this case, it turned out to be too risky and expensive. Lesson learned


  • @martin said in L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck:

    @flyingbadger yes… I saw a 54% chance in my favour and thought I have to take the risk. Maybe I should be a bit more risk avers when the outcome of a close battle decides on the survival of transporters and freight. In this case, it turned out to be too risky and expensive. Lesson learned

    Well, you can’t be too predictable. Sometimes the potential reward can be worth the risk. Eliminating the Italian fleet and giving yourself a free hand in the Mediterranean is very useful for the Allies.

    We can exchange our After Action Reports on conclusion and learn from each other!


  • @martin I’ll edit the armour to be unloaded from those transports, did you want them in Egypt?


  • @flyingbadger thank you, but do not edit. It is the rules. They were involved in the amphibious assault on Greece and retreated. Unlucky, but that’s the way it is.


  • @martin said in L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck:

    @flyingbadger thank you, but do not edit. It is the rules. They were involved in the amphibious assault on Greece and retreated. Unlucky, but that’s the way it is.

    I suppose it is the old can’t load and unload in different phases rule. However, in this situation I think it is too harsh. I shall put them in Egypt. Monty will be pleased to have them :desert: :rat:


  • @flyingbadger that’s very kind, but you should leave them to their destiny. They were involved in combat and then retreated. They should not be able to make a non-combat movement on top…

  • 2024 '23 '22 '21

    TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 4

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 2 armour moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Greece to 98 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
    
        Combat - Italians
            Strategic bombing raid in Egypt
                    British roll AA dice in Egypt : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Egypt rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor
                Bombing raid in Egypt causes 6 damage total. 
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 2 transports
                    2 transports owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone
                    1 armour owned by the British lost in Egypt
                    1 armour owned by the British lost in Egypt
                Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for British: 2 armour and 2 transports
            Battle in Bryansk
                Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk
                Italians win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians defend with 1 bomber
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Greece
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
    
        Place Units - Italians
            8 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Egypt from British to British
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 2 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0.17
    British AA : -0.17
    Russians regular : -0.33
    

    Savegame


  • @martin said in L21 FlyingBadger (Axis) - Martin (Allies + 30) OOB 2nd ed - low luck:

    @flyingbadger that’s very kind, but you should leave them to their destiny. They were involved in combat and then retreated. They should not be able to make a non-combat movement on top…

    Well I’ve made the edit (took 2 goes at it :confused: ), I’ll leave it up to you whether you keep them or not. Whatever you choose is 100% okay with me.

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