Correct date of alignment of Siam ?

@Timothy-Gengarella the lightning war ability only provides an extra combat and non combat phase; Germany doesn’t get a whole second turn.

@jyardley https://discord.gg/t4JkFdNwpR

@tank-nut

Hey there!

So, I have the V3 map, I haven’t upgraded to V4 yet. But I do know that the V4 map differs in some ways from the V2 map. I can’t remember specifically all of the changes, but there’s more territories now. There’s an extra territory each in England and Japan I know for sure, for example. and I believe an added territory in Norway as well. So while not a ton of changes, there are some that I believe affect the initial setup. I’m sure you could tweak a bit though to make it work if needed. And of course there’s the added terrain features as you mention. Funny you mention not liking the jungle terrain, I specifically bought the V3 map at the time because I wanted the added terrain features!

It’s been a couple years now, so I can’t remember our specifics, but I remember us using our V2 map and using the V3 rules and we just tweaked some set up and/or rules as needed to make it playable before we pulled the trigger on buying the V3 map.

Hope that helps! And I hope you find some UK players!

@meyott Hey there! I haven’t been able to bust the game out in a while, so I’m maybe a bit rusty here, but I believe these should answer your questions.

When Greek Alignment happens would depend on at what point in the game Turkey is Aligned too. If the Axis win Influence over Greece before they’re at war with anyone, then Turkey would not be Aligned with the Axis just yet, and so Greece would not be able to become Aligned with the Allies right away. If the Axis was at war with the Allies, then Greece would become Allied Aligned immediately.

There’s seemingly a bit of contradiction between the Turkey At War Expansion rules, and the Turkey Reference sheet though.

The Reference Sheet states that “If Turkey becomes Axis Aligned (i.e. its at war with the Same Major Power as Germany Japan or Italy), Greece will immediately become Allied Aligned”.

The Expansion rules at 1.5© and 1.6 state:

“1.5© Declaration of War: Even if Turkey becomes Aligned to a Major Power an independent run Turkey is not forced to declare war and can remain neutral until it wishes to. Other nations can declare war on Turkey as per Global War Rules”;

“1.6 Greece: If Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, Greece will immediately become Allied Aligned”.

So to me, the Reference sheet is saying that Greece becomes Aligned with the Allies when Turkey is at war with the same Major power as the Axis, but the Expansion rules at 1.6 just say Greece becomes Allied Aligned the moment Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, seemingly regardless of Turkey’s belligerent status.

I know that’s not me really answering the question, haha. We’ve played based on what the Expansion Rules say though and not the Reference sheet, meaning that once Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, Greece will become Allied Aligned, regardless of Turkish war status.

Good point on Home Country here. I guess I’d refer to the rulebook for “Home Country”:

“Each nation has a group of land zones that comprise their Home Country as defined on the National Reference Sheet. For a Minor Power the Home Country includes the primary nation but not its colonies, islands or conquered land zones”.

@Tyler_Stevenson Try this https://discord.gg/S5UNMf3c5H

@insanehoshi yes the state of war between Japan and USSR has no effect or bearing on the alignment rules and conditions that are stated in table 4-3

@Trig Quite facinating ref sheet! Do you have a complete version available for publication?

@manincellv Yes they become KMT.