L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL

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1d6<=4: 5; Hits: 0
1d6<=2: 5; Hits: 0

Myygames

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 106 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Alexandria to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
        1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia

    Combat - British

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

trulpen

No scramble, thanks.

Myygames

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

either decide beforehand which dice will be the LL one (either sub or fleet/air.

Partly missed something and partly suggested something that wasn’t logical.

I therefore suggest that the power of subs, surface ships and air is added and then the LL-die can be rolled here in the forum. I’ll show you how. Lets say it’s a value of 4, then

[dice 1d6<=4]

or if 2 it’s

[dice 1d6<=2]

The issue with subs is also that they cannot hit air. So there is another case where you need to divide the rolls.

In principle AAA is just rolling all subs seperately. ever. that could be adjusted in some cases, eg. when a DD is present and there is no air at the opponent. in f2f games we are doing that, but I am not so sure if it makes sense to adjust the AAA here manually, with dioces rolling in the forum. It seems to complicate things and there could be errors. Also think that you might be able to combine the sub values with the other fleet in round one, but you might need to seperate them in round 2.

BTW in f2f games we are also adding bombardment value of ships to the total of attacking amphibious units in round 1. Thats also nice.

In the light of simplicity I would opt to use the AAA options as they are.

And: Scramble decision and order of losses in the Med for you :-)

Myygames

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 carriers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 aaGun moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
        1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Central United States

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Western United States
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Central United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 26 Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 10 Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan
        5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 5 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Hunan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated
            Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Hunan to Shensi
        2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan
        3 infantry placed in Shensi

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 106 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Alexandria to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
        1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia

    Combat - British
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
            Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
            British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Ethiopia
            British attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Ethiopia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ethiopia
                British roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Ethiopia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Ethiopia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Ethiopia
            British win, taking Ethiopia from Italians with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
              British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
              UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
        1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Burma to India
        1 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 mech_infantry moved from India to Eastern Persia
              British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
        2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
        2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 106 Sea Zone to Quebec
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
        1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
              British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
        1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 battleship moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from India to 76 Sea Zone

    Place Units - British
        1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -1,00
Italians regular : 0,17
Japanese regular : -0,67
Germans regular : 0,67
British regular : 0,83

Savegame

trulpen

@myygames said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

The issue with subs is also that they cannot hit air. So there is another case where you need to divide the rolls.

True, although that’s not really relevant when there are (enough) ships to hit. Any hits has to be distributed if possible, so the sub-hits would automatically hit ships anyway while air hit surface ships a s o.

In principle AAA is just rolling all subs seperately. ever. that could be adjusted in some cases, eg. when a DD is present and there is no air at the opponent. in f2f games we are doing that, but I am not so sure if it makes sense to adjust the AAA here manually, with dioces rolling in the forum. It seems to complicate things and there could be errors. Also think that you might be able to combine the sub values with the other fleet in round one, but you might need to seperate them in round 2.

When they need to be separated, they will.

In the light of simplicity I would opt to use the AAA options as they are.

Might be, but I don’t really like it. I still suggest that we try to adjust as much as possible. In other instances when 3A can’t handle a rule, we have to adjust. I look upon this issue as the same thing.

And: Scramble decision and order of losses in the Med for you :-)

Seems to have been taken care of. :)

trulpen

There’s already an instance where this will be relevant. Namely if I either attack z97 with atleast 1 des and/or z93 with 1 sub and something else.

Myygames

@trulpen Can you adjust losses in AAA inside a combat? Not sure how this is done, I think the editor will not work within a combat.

So, if we say we adjust the combat rolls whenever possible, would we need to roll all dices manually for a combat where this is relevant? And then edit the result?

trulpen

@myygames said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

@trulpen Can you adjust losses in AAA inside a combat? Not sure how this is done, I think the editor will not work within a combat.

No, that’s not possible. The battle has to be restarted with adjusted casualties.

So, if we say we adjust the combat rolls whenever possible, would we need to roll all dices manually for a combat where this is relevant? And then edit the result?

Yes.

In the case of hitting the french navy, I can simply exchange the sub for a des before battle. That’s pretty feasible.

With the UK navy in z97 it’s trickier since the sub defends @1.

Anyway, before we proceed, we just need to find our common ground.

Myygames

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

@myygames said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

@trulpen Can you adjust losses in AAA inside a combat? Not sure how this is done, I think the editor will not work within a combat.

No, that’s not possible. The battle has to be restarted with adjusted casualties.

So, if we say we adjust the combat rolls whenever possible, would we need to roll all dices manually for a combat where this is relevant? And then edit the result?

Yes.

In the case of hitting the french navy, I can simply exchange the sub for a des before battle. That’s pretty feasible.

With the UK navy in z97 it’s trickier since the sub defends @1.

Anyway, before we proceed, we just need to find our common ground.

OK, if you would like to try that we can do. I still fear it will be complicated and there may be errors, but lets give it a try. Maybe that lets you see the LL concept in a better light then ;-)

The rules would be: Combine everything that is possible, seperate only when needed.

Combine sub values to fleet if no enemy air present and no DD
Combine bombardment to amphibious assaults in round 1 (?)
In that case roll manual dices in the forum with short description what the dices are for, for all following combat rolls.

Any additions?

trulpen

My suggestion is to adjust in the following instances, with the solution below:

Subs attacking without defending des
No change needed, first-strike active

Subs attacking with defending des
Exchange subs to des before battle and if relevant exchange back after battle

Subs defending without des attacking
No change needed, first-strike active

Several subs defending together with surface ships with only 1 des attacking and a lot of air
No change needed, since the subs can only hit the des

Subs defending with des attacking along with surface ships and air
Add the subs power to the fleet and roll the LL-die in the forum (enough ships to hit)

Are these suggestions ok?

I think the easiest and therefore most important one is when subs attack des. To simply exchange subs for des before the battle is easy and straight-forward.

I’m not completely opposed to keeping things simple and just follow the faulty 3A when subs defend, but it’s weird to not follow the spirit of LL.

trulpen

@myygames said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

OK, if you would like to try that we can do. I still fear it will be complicated and there may be errors, but lets give it a try. Maybe that lets you see the LL concept in a better light then ;-)

The rules would be: Combine everything that is possible, seperate only when needed.

Combine sub values to fleet if no enemy air present and no DD

Combine bombardment to amphibious assaults in round 1 (?)
In that case roll manual dices in the forum with short description what the dices are for, for all following combat rolls.

Any additions?

I think it’s logical to add shore bombardment to the first battle-roll during amphis. Lets do that.

Only thing is I think subs power should combine with the fleet if there are ships that the subs can hit, even if air is present. There’s just one special case where it is not applicable and I’m sure we can figure those situations out together when or if they happen.

trulpen

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

Several subs defending together with surface ships with only 1 des attacking and a lot of air
No change needed, since the subs can only hit the des

Here’s an example. In z97 the sub can only hit the des, so it’s logical to not combine the power. Not several subs though, so should probably rephrase it to

Sub(s) defending together with surface ship(s) with only 1 des attacking and air

trulpenplay

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Politics - Italians
        Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
            Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Italians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 95 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 95 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              Italians take Alexandria from British
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
              Italians take Kenya from British
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

trulpen

Here I’ve exchanged the sub to a des that attacks z93.

A better way would’ve been to delete the sub and then add the des to another sea zone, like z94. Now I noticed that it wasn’t clear whether the sub went to z93 or z97. Anyway, it’s always possible to make clarifications here in the forum.

trulpen

Ok, think this is ok and in mutual agreement, so I’ll proceed with battle.

Myygames

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

Ok, think this is ok and in mutual agreement, so I’ll proceed with battle.

yes, please do so. If anything pops up we will discuss and sove it.

trulpenplay

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Politics - Italians
        Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
            Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Italians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 95 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 95 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              Italians take Alexandria from British
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
              Italians take Kenya from British
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 93 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport
            French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1,33 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0,33

Savegame

trulpen

Having a sub present, sink the cr or des?

Myygames

@trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

Having a sub present, sink the cr or des?

lets sink the DD.
That means you need to roll in the forum for your sub. If I dont hit R2 the rest of the battle can be in AAA, since you will hit, and calculation if my cr hits can be in AAA.

L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL

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