I vacillated a ton on this move. I think this has just as much chance of working as ramming everything into Moscow, but should at least be more fun :D.
C-Game dawgoneit vs AetV
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Coaching game. We will use a 24 standard bid for Allies.
I recommend:
1x Sub sz 98
1x Arm in Egypt
1x Mech or Arty in AES (Sudan)
1x Marine in India
1x Inf in SzechwanAsk any time @dawgoneit, we will use multiple maps sometimes as showcase.
Have fun!
Germany will start with a standard opening for sz110 and 111. -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 marine EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia Combat - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@dawgoneit Scramble Question.
I suggest you to NOT Scramble. Keep your Units, your strenght together. Prevent any unit losses as much as possible untill you get more confident with your playstyle. And then I would only recommend a scramble of sz 111 in this case or you received a higher bid for Allies were you have a extra 10 bids for an additional FTR for Scotland.
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@aequitas-et-veritas no scramble
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 marine EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in 111 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone British win with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 4,33 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/7 hits, 4,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the French, 2 submarines owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Battle in France Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry French roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 2 : 5/20 hits, 6,83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4,33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the French, 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the French lost in France Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 3 : 9/16 hits, 6,17 expected hits French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in France, round 3 : 4/7 hits, 3,00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 2 infantry owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27 Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in 106 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Tobruk Place Units - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 1. 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 0,67 Neutral_Allies regular : -0,67 Germans regular : 4,33 British regular : -0,50 French AA : -0,17 -
First Round went very well for Germany. No Plane(s) lost and has still all Fast Movers (Short = FM).
This should make you think about your First Russian BUY.
Do you want to do Russia and we talk about the Pros and Cons what you did?
Or do you want me to share my thoughts now on what you should do and can do @dawgoneit ? -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 4 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 4 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@aequitas-et-veritas said in C-Game dawgoneit vs AetV:
do Russia and we talk about the Pros and Cons what you did
do Russia and we talk about the Pros and Cons what i did -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia 6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 6 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@dawgoneit To get the edge as Russia and be able to deny Germany as long as possible access orthe capturing of the key points and citys buy accordingly.
As I mentioned above Germany came out strong. With an aggressive purchase of 7Infs and 4 Arty you may play into Germanys hands, also the positioning is suboptimal. Feel free to take a look on the Russian Map I posted.
I bought 12 Infs and have therefore an extra Unit. My Positioning allows me to retreat faster from Novgorod and keeps the option available to recapture it, if for some reasons Germany goes in to soft or the dice went south for Germany to capture Novgorod. But in the end it will fall anyway, so please don’t leave as less units behind then neccessary.Try to allways remember to bring your Sub down from sz127. This Sub is very helpful when it comes down to be a Canopener for the US and UK sometimes.
So try to scuttle it down to Gibraltar and meet with the USN and RN.Pulling back the Siberians is allways a good thing, at least for a round.
Observe carefully and decide on R2 on what are you going to do with them!Other then that all good.
We can go with any one you ant from here, you just have to let me know wich one. You will see the benefits of either one anyway through the game and game explanations.
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@aequitas-et-veritas we ca go with yours
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@dawgoneit would you buy differently for germany if we went with the first one? can we go with both and see the difference?
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@dawgoneit said in C-Game dawgoneit vs AetV:
@dawgoneit would you buy differently for germany if we went with the first one? can we go with both and see the difference?
I went with a strong Germany opening , banking on loose close to ZERO planes.
A heavy land build with G on G1 should allways make you cautious with Russia and rather buy 12 Inf on R1 to be save. You can allways add Artys to it, but loosing Arts up North bc they got trapped and or destroyed is very painful. -
TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 marine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from French Combat - Japanese Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3,17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3,00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Shantung to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 marine placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 10 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Western United States 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@aequitas-et-veritas i waited to do china so we can cover america first. is this good with you?
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@dawgoneit yes it is good with me.
But you’ll have to wait till am off work.
So in about 7hrs i 'll have a chance to look at it and give you Details. -
@aequitas-et-veritas Awesome. thank you.
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@dawgoneit have you seen the second game in the playboard forum?
I Set up the second game as you requested. -
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